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#1268913 - 10/19/09 04:17 PM Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans
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Should renewals and/or modifications be checked for HPML rate spread or just new loans?

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#1268950 - 10/19/09 04:50 PM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans rwr12179
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Only if you make a loan (including refinancings).
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#1269370 - 10/19/09 10:52 PM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans David Dickinson
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David, if you have (Texas) a renewal and modification of the real estate note, then it doesn't need to be checked against HPML or HOEPA as this is not a refinance?

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#1270655 - 10/21/09 04:38 PM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans Glutes
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I don't know anything about Texas law, but your statement is correct for Federal law.
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#1271146 - 10/21/09 11:28 PM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans David Dickinson
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I don't think it is a requirement but is it a good idea to have some type of log / tracking for loan applications that were either cancelled or denied but at time of denial / cancellation / withdrawal would have qualfied as a HPML?

These would be for those that aren't HMDA reportable but would be HPML. For the HMDA reportable ones, they will be on the LAR.

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#1271160 - 10/22/09 02:44 AM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans river girl
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Why? Are you going to test an application that didn't close for HPML. How? You don't have an APR.
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#1301513 - 12/09/09 02:24 PM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans David Dickinson
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We're having some more discussions around testing for HPML on renewals/modifications. There is some push back stating that we should do this as there is no exemption in the HPML rules at 226.35(a)(3)for not including renewals/modifications. I'm looking at 226.20(a) and the commentary. In reading through the definition of refinancing that a refinancing would require new disclosures. If the loan is not considered a refinance, then my understanding is new disclsoures would not be required. Is that the correct logic or is there something else I can go back to to help support this? Thank you.

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#1301524 - 12/09/09 02:32 PM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans Jan94
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If it is not a refinancing, there are no new disclosures required. What APR are they proposing to use to determine that the renewal/modification triggers the HPML rules?
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#1301773 - 12/09/09 04:36 PM Re: Reg. Z High Priced Mortgage Loans rlcarey
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Our system does not have separate renewal/modification documents. We actually do a new note that will have an APR disclosed in the fed box and that's what they would use.

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