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#223192 - 08/03/04 11:51 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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I would bet that W and Laura know what chili is and probably eat Tex-Mex chili when home.

The bottom line: hypocrisy. The Kerry's and the Edwards are hypocrits!

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#223193 - 08/03/04 11:57 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Once again, as a moderator - you should not be participating in this type of thread and issuing threats against posters that simply disagree with your opinions is unprofessional, at best, given your thread management position within BOL.

Why not simply place me on your ignore list? That would make me a happy camper.





Well...it looks like round 2 of Dawnie verses Paragon. I thought we were going to stop these political threads. Is there really a whole heck of a lot we can do about it anyway? I do wonder if Wendy's chili is made from Hienz or Hunts tomato sauce?

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#223194 - 08/04/04 12:09 AM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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I don't think there's any catsup in the stuff:

http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/recipes/wenchili.htm
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#223195 - 08/04/04 01:44 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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#223196 - 08/04/04 02:02 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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It is all about the difference in being pompous and self-important versus truly being unpretentious and showing a lack of conceit or vanity. Kerry fits one image; the President fits another.

When Kerry threw a first pitch at a Red Sox game, he threw a 39-mile-per hour pitch from 40-feet from the plate. When the President threw a first pitch at a Rangers game, he threw a 78-mile-per-hour STRIKE from the mound.

To a guy, especially a baseball fan, someone who can throw a strike from 90 feet is not being phony by getting on the mound.

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#223197 - 08/04/04 02:14 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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...someone who can throw a strike from 90 feet is not being phony by getting on the mound.




correction: 60'6" (90' is the distance between bases)

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#223198 - 08/04/04 02:15 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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I'll bet W knows what Joe Sixpack knows - Wendy's chilli is best when you add the hot sauce they have in gold packages behind the counter (once-upon-a-time they handed you a couple of packages with each order) and that the Frosty is one of the few milkshakes from fast-food joints that you can put in the freezer at home and it's still good the next day .
Even though W gets my vote, something makes me think Edwards remembers this too - maybe even wanted to get a man's meal before going to the club. Shame to see such a nice guy get roped into the Kerry crowd. Wish he was in the GOP.

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#223199 - 08/04/04 02:16 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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man oh man, this has been a good one. So becuase kerry only throws a 39 MPH fastball he shouldn't be president? Based n his hieght, maybe he should challenge W to a game of basketball, may the best man win the presidency...that said, I agree with the previous postings that the Edwards/Kerry Wendy's trip make them look bad. Once you declare for president, your entire life will be scrutinized, and everything becomes fair game (whether it should or not). Who cares that W had a DWI back in college. I know many people that have, but they learned from their mistake and moved on. Yes, the Kerry's lead a priveleged lifestyle, but W doesn't exactly make chumpp change ($800,000+ in 2003). I'd be happy with that amount. I do find it funny that Kerry is promisign more jobs to Americans, but his photo ops on his racing bike show an ITALIAN MADE bike. What's wrong, isn't Trek, pecialized, Giant, or Schwinn good enough? Bet W's mountain bike is American made.
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#223200 - 08/04/04 02:19 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Once again, as a moderator - you should not be participating in this type of thread and issuing threats against posters that simply disagree with your opinions is unprofessional, at best, given your thread management position within BOL.

Why not simply place me on your ignore list? That would make me a happy camper.




GROW UP! If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!

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#223201 - 08/04/04 02:47 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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GROW UP! If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!




Your post fills a much needed gap.

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#223202 - 08/04/04 02:48 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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So becuase kerry only throws a 39 MPH fastball he shouldn't be president?





The imagery and connection to the viewer is what I was referencing.

It is like watching a celebrity who is not a professional golfer playing in a pro-am golf tournament. Someone who can credibly tee off and play respectably (e.g., Michael Jordan)is able to connect with the audience, while someone who plays embarassingly (Bill Murray) is taken in a different light.

The point is that if there is any doubt that you can't at least reach the plate, it is probably not a good thing for your handlers to arrange for this showing.

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#223203 - 08/04/04 03:00 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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It is all about the difference in being pompous and self-important versus truly being unpretentious and showing a lack of conceit or vanity. Kerry fits one image; the President fits another.

When Kerry threw a first pitch at a Red Sox game, he threw a 39-mile-per hour pitch from 40-feet from the plate. When the President threw a first pitch at a Rangers game, he threw a 78-mile-per-hour STRIKE from the mound.

To a guy, especially a baseball fan, someone who can throw a strike from 90 feet is not being phony by getting on the mound.




Well, that's another valid analogy. There are more than a few of them as the two candidates could not be different in the personality department.

When Kerry speaks, the following word associations come up for me: act, acting, affectation, appearance, artifice, charade, claim, cloak, cover, deceit, deception, display, dissimulation, double-dealing, dumb act, evasion, excuse, fabrication, facade, fakery, faking, falsification, feigning, gag, guise, insincerity, invention, make-believe, mask, masquerade, misrepresentation, misstatement, ostentation, posing, posturing, pretentiousness, pretext, routine, ruse, semblance, sham, shtick, shuffling, simulation, stall, stunt, subterfuge, trickery, veil, veneer, wile.

When Bush speaks, the following word associations come up for me: artlessness, directness, fairness, forthrightness, frankness, guilelessness, honesty, impartiality, ingenuousness, naïveté, openness, outspokenness, probity, simplicity, sincerity, straightforwardness, truthfulness, unequivocalness, uprightness, veracity.

I'll go with artlessness and honesty.

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#223204 - 08/04/04 03:31 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
    The point is that if there is any doubt that you can't at least reach the plate, it is probably not a good thing for your handlers to arrange for this showing
...

Jay - I'm sure his handlers knew he couldn't reach the plate, and you will soon see an advertisement explaining that his inability is due to shrapnel received while personnally fighting the Vietcong, or something to that affect...
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#223205 - 08/04/04 03:40 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Jay - I'm sure his handlers knew he couldn't reach the plate, and you will soon see an advertisement explaining that his inability is due to shrapnel received while personnally fighting the Vietcong, or something to that affect...




Did Kerry serve in Vietnam? Who knew?!

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#223206 - 08/04/04 03:41 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Lol, funny guy

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#223207 - 08/04/04 04:07 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Ok, aside from all of the BS that's being spewed, and back to the original post. I personally don't care,a dn I don't think anyone should hold it against the Kerrys or Edwards' for eating a good meal away from Wendy's. I think that what may surprise some people is that the Edwards' didn't really "eat there"...ya they stopped in adn got snacks,adn it was more of a renuance of a memorial event-their reunion. WHen the Edwards campaign first told the story of the Edwards' anniversary ritual, I think that a lot of people thought....I did at leats...that when they said that they went to Wendy's every year on their anniverary, that they spent quite a bit of thime there, and ate a meal. It deosn't bother me that they really only visit Wendy's every year for their anniversary instead of eating there, but it wasn't what I expected from the Edwards' campaign story.....

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#223208 - 08/04/04 04:13 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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sorry, it's Anon again. I forgot to click the second page of threads, so don't take that whole BS spewing thing too personally, I was referrign to pg 1

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#223209 - 08/04/04 04:34 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Jay - I'm sure his handlers knew he couldn't reach the plate, and you will soon see an advertisement explaining that his inability is due to shrapnel received while personnally fighting the Vietcong, or something to that affect...




Anyway...the point I made is that the intended imagery and the perception of the viewer is something that is controllable by the imagemaker -- in this case Kerry's handlers.

The bigger issue that appears to continually be raised, particularly from those who are actually anti-war or who know nothing about Vietnam, is the reference to Kerry's 121-day service in Vietnam, such as your reference to his "fighting the Vietcong". Parenthetically, we never heard any mention of Senator Dole's World War II service when he ran against Clinton, and Dole is a disabled veteran -- but this is because Dole did not focus on his service, but, instead, focused on what he did in the years following.

In "John Kerry, The Making of a Candidate", by Douglas Brinkley, Kerry's 4-month service record -- which is the only thing he is running ON , except for trying to portray the President in a negative light -- is outlined as follows: On November 17, 1968, Kerry arrives at Cam Ranh Bay, South Vietnam, serving as a swift boat commander. On February 10, 1969, he is awarded a Purple Heart for the shrapnel injury, which was to his left thigh. His right arm is injured in March, but he was able to pull the gunner back in the boat "with his injured arm bleeding" on that same day. He is discharged from Vietnam service on March 17, 1969, after 121 days of service. The Navy's Coastal Squadron One policy was that anyone could be relieved after a third wounding injury.

Aside from the 121 days in Vietnam, and aside from the Democrats visceral dislike of the President, what are the post-Vietnam activities carried out by Kerry that make him stand out as the best selection for the Presidency. I'm asking rhetorically, because other than the 121-day Vietname service, I don't know what he's running ON.

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#223210 - 08/04/04 04:41 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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I have one question here:
How will John Kerry create 10 MILLION jobs in the next four years? What decision could he possibly make to create that many jobs?
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#223211 - 08/04/04 05:09 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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I'm still confused. I thought that all the rich people ate at windy's. I'm just a teller so all I can afford is Taco Bell. Rumor has it that I might get a raise to burger king soon!! I can't wait!

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#223212 - 08/04/04 05:25 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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I have one question here:
How will John Kerry create 10 MILLION jobs in the next four years? What decision could he possibly make to create that many jobs?




Here's the plan....

First, he will unleash William Jefferson Clinton. Bill will tour the country giving talks on the new program across the nation.

Then, and here is the genius, the demand for ob/gyn specialists will increase tenfold. The new working physicians will require daycare workers to watch their children adding more jobs. At the same time, the liberal left will demand planned parenthoods, more child services workers, etc. etc. This will further increase the number of jobs. Finally, when the husbands find out that the children aren't theirs, there will be an increased demand for trial lawyers to handle the divorce cases, custody battles, etc. etc.

Finally, there will be an increase in jobs as working for special interest groups lobbying to spend the additional tax dollars Kerry will demand. At the same time, there will be an increase in the number of employees by the republican party in an effort to beat Kerry out in four years after he shows us what idiots he and Edwards really are.

But that's just my thoughts on his plan....

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#223213 - 08/04/04 05:47 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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Paragon, if you don't cancel out her vote, I will. I am glad I don't subscribe to liberal view points, I believe abortion is wrong, I believe homosexual activity is wrong, and God Bless the USA and it deserves to be protected. I am glad I live in a state (WV)where a former governor and state legislature passed a law that the state of WV would not only NOT issue marriage licenses for same sex marriages but that our state will not recognize any such marriages??? performed in other states. Yes, I am a Christian and as such I must act in good conscience in all I say and do. I believe our president is performing his duties in a way that reflects his Christian beliefs. For this I am thankful.
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#223214 - 08/04/04 05:51 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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I have one question here:
How will John Kerry create 10 MILLION jobs in the next four years? What decision could he possibly make to create that many jobs?




Easy, he will create some sort of job, taking the money from you to pay that person. It will be almost like having someone on your payroll! Also, he will expand the government - add 10 million more government workers - taking the rest of your money to pay those workers. You will end up in a world of trouble, financially speaking. But, there is no doubt above it - John and Tah-reza know what is right for you.

Is there anything worse than dimo-bulbs with lots of money? They don't want to give up their money, they want you to give up your money.

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#223215 - 08/04/04 05:57 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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John Kerry is open minded enough to welcome different viewpoints and will not oppress, discriminate or persecute people because they want to be free to choose.........who to marry, whether to have children, and to avoid unneeded wars. Isn't liberty really about freedom, then Kerry is the one who would best protect our liberties.

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#223216 - 08/04/04 06:01 PM Re: John Kerry - Regular Guy?
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John Kerry is open minded enough to welcome different viewpoints and will not oppress, discriminate or persecute people because they want to be free to choose.........who to marry, whether to have children, and to avoid unneeded wars. Isn't liberty really about freedom, then Kerry is the one who would best protect our liberties.




Do you not understand that Kerry believes in LARGE government to further control your life and my life, which actually results in LESS freedom?
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