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#274318 - 11/12/04 04:38 PM
Kidnapping Witnesses
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I was appalled when I saw the news this morning which showed video of a California woman who was apparently kidnapped by two men outside of a shopping mall and stuffed into the trunk of their car. There were up to 12 witnesses who saw what was going on and not one of them contacted police or security to report what they saw. It was a mall security guard who witnessed the event on the video camera system that contacted police. That is unbelievable to me that so many people would witness something like that and not at least call police. I'm sure it is a scary situation and nowadays people just don't want to get involved, but it is so unbelievable to me that not one person did a anything. I mean, how would they feel if something like that happened to them or someone they loved, and no one got involved? I have never been in that situation, Thank God, but if I were, I can't imagine not getting involved, at the very least, making a 911 phone call.
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#274319 - 11/12/04 04:50 PM
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About 6 years ago I witnessed a man beating his wife in their car in a parking lot. I went to try to aide the woman, when I ask what the problem was the man turned and pointed a gun at me and told me to mind my own business, which I did. I did go into a store and called the police, he and his wife were gone before they arrived and like a dummy I did not get the license plate number. Never heard anymore of the incident. But, unless it's an extreme case, I will probably never physically interfere again in a similar situation. I would however call the police and do a better job of getting a description of the vehicle.
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#274321 - 11/12/04 04:55 PM
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Maybe they thought the kidnapping was a Jack@$$ skit??? Who knows, but I do know that I would have done something, and from the little I know about many of the posters here, it seems like most of us would have intervened somehow.
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#274322 - 11/12/04 05:02 PM
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I saw that video....Sad..Very Sad....
You know they may never find that person and if they do, it may be too late......Last I heard, no one matching the descritpion was reported missing......
I'm praying for her....
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#274323 - 11/12/04 05:32 PM
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About 6 years ago I witnessed a man beating his wife in their car in a parking lot. I went to try to aide the woman, when I ask what the problem was the man turned and pointed a gun at me and told me to mind my own business, which I did. I did go into a store and called the police, he and his wife were gone before they arrived and like a dummy I did not get the license plate number. Never heard anymore of the incident. But, unless it's an extreme case, I will probably never physically interfere again in a similar situation. I would however call the police and do a better job of getting a description of the vehicle.
I can't imagine how scary that was for you! You are very brave to do what you did! I agree that even just a phone call to police shows you are human and that you care about your fellow man.
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#274324 - 11/12/04 05:50 PM
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It was in a blue state - what else needs to be said. Remember everyone has the right to do whatever they want we cannot legislate morality.
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#274325 - 11/12/04 06:03 PM
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This has nothing to do with politics.
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#274326 - 11/12/04 06:11 PM
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You have a point, but I only agree somewhat.
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#274329 - 11/12/04 08:09 PM
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Maybe I have stirred up a hornets nest here by the way I commented (not my intent) and Dan I did not mean to offend you. What I really think is the punishment must match the crime or criminals will blossom. The liberal agenda of rights for everyone is one root cause of increased violence. I also think the liberal agenda has hurt our law enforcement efforts for enforcing the law. The ACLU is more in favor of protecting the criminal than the victim and I believe more liberals are in blue states than red. I also believe more liberals support groups damaging our society like the ACLU and others.
Now do I want harm to come to that lady - NO. But I do blame liberals for part of her predicament. My prayer is that she will be found safe and sound very soon. I also pray our legislators will reapply principles our country was founded on in our laws and the application of those laws.
I am sorry if I offended anyone and my prayer is truly for that lady's wellfare.
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#274330 - 11/12/04 08:16 PM
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Oh for gads sake! You're saying liberals didn't do anything for this lady? If the vote is any indication of the world today, half of the witnessess were probably not liberal.
It's raining today? Did some dang conservative make that happen?
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#274331 - 11/12/04 08:20 PM
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Thanks, Dawnie! I think Anon's comments are way out in left field -- it is ridiculous.
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#274332 - 11/12/04 08:20 PM
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No I did not say liberals did not do anything for this lady (I know a few good ones). What I said I believe is the liberal agenda is eroding absolutes and this is contributing to increased crime (like a lady getting kidnapped in a parking lot with witnesses not doing anything about it).
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#274333 - 11/12/04 08:24 PM
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Liberal bashing is always good clean fun, but it normally stops at the rediculous. You've reached way past the stopping point.
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#274335 - 11/12/04 08:30 PM
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Chi are you a liberal? Can you make the rain stop please???? Some stupid conservative turned it on and my powers will only allow me to avoid calling 911 when I see a kidnapping.
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#274339 - 11/12/04 08:53 PM
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This thread, by no means, was meant to be a political thread! I have had enough of that to last me a long time. The topic is people witnessing a kidnapping and not doing anything about it. "the liberals made me do it" is not an excuse!
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#274340 - 11/12/04 08:58 PM
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The sad thing is that with the proliferation of cell phones in this world, I'd guess many of the folks who watched this happen didn't even think of calling. How sad is that!
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