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#288519 - 12/14/04 02:21 PM
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It comes out today. I can not wait to see the extended footage.
Anyone else picking it up?
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#288520 - 12/14/04 03:01 PM
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My boyfriend assured me he would be going to pick it up on his way home tonight. He is a LOTR freak.
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#288521 - 12/14/04 03:04 PM
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I am also swinging by the store to buy it tonight.
(I have been counting down for several months.)
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#288522 - 12/14/04 03:04 PM
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My boyfriend assured me he would be going to pick it up on his way home tonight. He is a LOTR freak.
you and my girlfriend would get along great. 
i said that i was picking it up today also (i have all versions of the other 2) and her reply; "i can't believe i am going out with a dork."
ah, love..... nice, huh?
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#288523 - 12/14/04 03:58 PM
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That's going to be the hubby's Christmas present from the kidlets 
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#288524 - 12/14/04 07:28 PM
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And whither then? I cannot say.
Of course, we're going to buy it. How could we not?
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#288525 - 12/16/04 01:43 PM
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i picked this dvd up last nite to complete my lord of the rings collection.
let me tell ya, all 3 of the extended versions look great on my dvd rack.
hopefully, i'll get a chance to watch it tonite.
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#288526 - 12/16/04 01:56 PM
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Mine was sitting on my doorstep waiting for me last night, when I returned home from my Sunday School Class Christmas Party. Friday night is movie night for my daughter and I. Guess what we will be curled up watching tomorrow night? We'll have lots of hot chocolate (the home-made variety) and popcorn.
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#288528 - 12/16/04 04:54 PM
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I really like that they added the Mouth of Sauron, but I wish they would have gone into more depth in the House of Healing
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#288529 - 12/16/04 10:25 PM
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How can a LOTR fan NOT have the full 4-DVD set of each movie?
I'd say there's a big difference between being a LOTR fan and a fan of the movies. I have read the books numerous times and found the movies very different in key areas. Tolkien did not want his books made into a movie (yes, the Beatles were initially thought of to play the hobbits way back when) because he said all the movies would focus on would be the battle scenes and the characters would be portrayed as being different from their intent. I guess he was right...
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#288530 - 12/16/04 10:28 PM
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i thought the characters were great. i thought samwise was exactly what tolkien pictured and wrote him to be. he was the hero that wasn't in the foreground. he stepped up everytime when it mattered. that is what tolkien wanted samwise to be like.
i really just loved these movies and have watched them numerous times. i really can't get enough of them.
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#288532 - 12/17/04 03:54 AM
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i thought the characters were great. i thought samwise was exactly what tolkien pictured and wrote him to be. he was the hero that wasn't in the foreground. he stepped up everytime when it mattered. that is what tolkien wanted samwise to be like.
I agree BG. I've always said that the story of LOTR is really about Samwise Gamgee. Frodo gets more attention, but Sam is the main character. He represents the triumph of the common man, because without the good and true Sam along, the quest would have been a total failure.
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#288534 - 12/17/04 01:47 PM
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The 1st two expanded versions actually put back into the movie some things that were in the books and left out of the 1st two theatre versions. I'm hoping the 3rd one will as well. The 3rd theatre movie seemed a bit choppy & disjointed to me.
I've also been told by some that some things in the 1st two movies didn't happen in the books. Well, there were a few things, but a lot of people don't apparently read the footnotes to the books, which is where some of this occurred.
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#288536 - 12/17/04 07:20 PM
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The problem I had was with the changing of the characters' integrity. For example Faramir.
I'm with you. Most of the changes Jackson made for the movie don't bother me. I understand it's a movie and not the books. But I agree, the Faramir thing was a strange twist that doesn't really seem to add anything significant to the movie story line. The only reason I can think they did it was to have an opportunity to show the ruins of Osgiliath and set up his conflict with Denethor.)
In the books, Faramir is one of my favorite characters. He is the contrast to his brother.
The two scenes from the book I wish Jackson could have figured out how to put in the movies were (1) Tom Bombadil and "2) the scourging of the Shire.
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#288537 - 12/17/04 07:30 PM
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The problem I had was with the changing of the characters' integrity. For example Faramir.
I'm with you. Most of the changes Jackson made for the movie don't bother me. I understand it's a movie and not the books. But I agree, the Faramir thing was a strange twist that doesn't really seem to add anything significant to the movie story line. The only reason I can think they did it was to have an opportunity to show the ruins of Osgiliath and set up his conflict with Denethor.)
In the books, Faramir is one of my favorite characters. He is the contrast to his brother.
The two scenes from the book I wish Jackson could have figured out how to put in the movies were (1) Tom Bombadil and "2) the scourging of the Shire.
Peter said that he didn't understand the scourging of the shire and that is why he left it out.
You do see Tom in the Fellowship but only briefly. You see him when the Ring Wraiths venture into the Shire to find Frodo.
I thought the battle scene in Return of the King was the battle scene of all battle scenes for all movies to be judged by.
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#288540 - 12/19/04 12:45 AM
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When you see the extended version of ROTK, you'll find out what happens to Saruman, but I won't spoil it for you by telling you about it here.
I think the reason PJ left out Tom Bombadil is because, even as Tolkien himself admitted, the episode with Bombadil and Goldberry really does nothing to advance the story. It was just a very interesting detour on the trip to Bree. Oh, and I've never thought of Bombadil as "fruity." He's an enigma. There are two characters in the books without peer -- Bombadil, and Sauron. (Some might include the balrog, but there was more than one balrog in the old days.)
I thought the ending was OK, because it did bring everything back to focus on Sam at the end.
But I did think it was pretty stupid of the sriptwriters to say that the ship Frodo and Bilbo took was the last one to leave Middle Earth. (When I think about this "last ship to sail" Hollywood garbage being thrown into the script, I can't help but be reminded of the crass movie mogul from the Coen brothers film, "Barton Fink." I can just see Peter Jackson smoking a big cigar sitting in a meeting with his scriptwriters. He glowers at them from behind his big desk and says, "Of course it has to the last ship to sail from Middle Earth, you dummies. That way even the little old grandmas will know the story is over. What are you, a bunch of idiots or something?!")
If you read the Appendices to the book, you'll learn that ships continued to leave after Frodo and Bilbo went away. It is rumored that Legolas and Gimli left together on a ship (and that Gimili was the only Dwarf who was allowed a place on a ship.) You'll also learn that Sam left many years later after he was old and Rose Cotton had passed away. Sam was the last of the Ringbearers, and as such, was accorded a place on an Elven ship.
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#288541 - 12/19/04 12:50 AM
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Hey, Blind Guardian, I looked for the glimpse of Bombadil in the movie when the Nazgul entered the Shire. I couldn't find anything. Could you tell me what action is happening immediatly prior to the scene you're talking about?
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#288543 - 12/20/04 02:38 PM
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Hey, Blind Guardian, I looked for the glimpse of Bombadil in the movie when the Nazgul entered the Shire. I couldn't find anything. Could you tell me what action is happening immediatly prior to the scene you're talking about?
it's when the ringwraith asks the scared little hobbit about baggins and tom replies, frodo, he's up in hobbiton.
i still have not watched the extended version of 3 but the extended versions of the first 2 are excellent.
you do see the faramir is really looking out for frodo when he roughs up gollum when they are leaving the city to go back on the trip to mount doom.
i think i'll be watching the extended king over teh christmas weekend.
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