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nga
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posted 10-15-2001 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nga   Click Here to Email nga     Edit/Delete Message
I am confused about exactly what constitutes a refinancing. I know if you add new money to a note, that is considered refinancing and triggers new disclosures. I told one lender if he modifies a note by lowering the interest rate, (not swithching from fixed to variable rate) that is not a refinance. He wants to know if he can charge a modification fee and finance the fee. If he does this, is it considered new money and therefore a refinancing needing new disclosures?

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Eric
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posted 10-16-2001 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message
Look at 226.20 and the commentary to that section.

Basically, if the orignial obligation is satisfied and replaced by a new obligation in accordance with "the parties contract and applicable law", it is a refinancing and disclosure is required.

So, you really need to know if under your state law if the way the refinanced loan is documented causes the original obligation to be "satisfied and replaced". In many states, if the original note is left in place and the parties enter into agreement modifying the original note, the original obligation is not "satisfied" and it would not be considered a refinancing.

Keep in mind that 226.20(a) lists types of transcations exempt from new disclosure even if the transaction is a refinancing.

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bwest
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posted 10-16-2001 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bwest     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Eric. This is something I have had a difficult time understanding and I think he explained it very well.

Certain fees may be charged without making it a "refinance".

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Richard Insley
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posted 10-16-2001 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Insley   Click Here to Email Richard Insley     Edit/Delete Message
Hard to believe, but this standard is MUCH BETTER than the one it replaced when Reg Z was "simplified" 20 years ago.

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Lucy Griffin
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posted 10-18-2001 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucy Griffin   Click Here to Email Lucy Griffin     Edit/Delete Message
All roads lead back to 226.17(c) -- my favorite part of Reg Z. 226.20 uses the legal obligation standard. Then it offers several examples of what is not a refinancing. These examples are not exclusive. The most critical test is whether you have extinguished and replaced the underlying note or simply modified the existing note. Yes, you can charge a fee for doing this and the fee does not affect the nature of the transaction.

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Mary Beth Guard
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posted 10-18-2001 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mary Beth Guard   Click Here to Email Mary Beth Guard     Edit/Delete Message
Lucy, it's truly scary that you have "favorite" parts of Regulation Z.

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Lucy Griffin
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posted 10-18-2001 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucy Griffin   Click Here to Email Lucy Griffin     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, I'm trying to figure out a Halloween costume for 226.17(c)! Not that anyone on the trick-or-treat circuit would get it...

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