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#1027086 - 08/25/08 02:44 PM Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt .
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#1027087 - 08/25/08 02:49 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . kms
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I seem to remember that Alaska is one of the few states that allows you to possess a minimal amount of marijuana for personal use...you can't buy or sell it, but you can possess it (don't ask me how you get it if you can't buy it)
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#1027097 - 08/25/08 02:53 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . HappyGilmore
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I know it is just that a lot of people call for it to be legalized because it doesn't hurt others and this show it can. I know Ron will stop by later and how statiisticly alcohol blah blah blah. But i just wanted this pointed out.
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#1027104 - 08/25/08 02:57 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . kms
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If memory serves me right--and with all the MJ I've consumed that's not necessarily a comfort--AK allows its citizens to grow their own crop and the seeds can be donated or gifted.

As a proponent of legalization of pot, my two cents is this: driving requires one's full attention and to ingest any drug that impares that ability is a reflection on the driver's disregard for other drivers.
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#1027106 - 08/25/08 02:59 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . kms
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It can definitely hurt others...just as alcohol can. That article could just have easily been about someone under the influence of alcohol.

Either legalize both...or make both illegal.

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#1027133 - 08/25/08 03:25 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . Miscuit
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How exactly does the fact that someone driving under pots influence killed someone mean that pot should remain illegal. What this really argues is that alcohol should be outlawed.

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#1027135 - 08/25/08 03:28 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . straw
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ummmm...ok...that's my point

i'm good with either...but i'm not good with the double-standard

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#1027137 - 08/25/08 03:29 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . straw
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What it shows, Straw, is that pot is much more harmful than the "legalize it" crowd has convinced themselves of and continues to try to convice others of.
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#1027140 - 08/25/08 03:31 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . GuitarDude
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GD, how is this incident different from when a drunk driver kills someone?

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#1027141 - 08/25/08 03:31 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . straw
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Driving under the influence of a legally prescribed drug is dangerous and potentially could end in killing someone else, also. Should legal prescription medication be illegal, too?

The simple fact is, driving requires responsibility and common sense. Those who do not have any of either should not drive, and we ought to take away their licenses.

The legalization of marijuana and/or criminalization of alcohol are a whole other ball of wax, IMHO.
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#1027144 - 08/25/08 03:35 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . BurntSienna
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Look I have heard it stated even here in BOL "you wont see anyone driving on pot killing anyone" I am trying to make the point that it can.
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#1027149 - 08/25/08 03:39 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . kms
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Well those statements are obviously incorrect; any drug (including alcohol) has an influence.

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#1027151 - 08/25/08 03:40 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . straw
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GD, how is this incident different from when a drunk driver kills someone?


That is exactly the point, it isn't different. My point, and kms just stated it, is that despite the claims of the proponents of legalization, pot is dangerous (and more harmful to your health than cigarettes, which are horrible for you themselves).
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#1027153 - 08/25/08 03:40 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . straw
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^^^^^ agrees with straw

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#1027156 - 08/25/08 03:41 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . GuitarDude
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GD, how is this incident different from when a drunk driver kills someone?


That is exactly the point, it isn't different. My point, and kms just stated it, is that despite the claims of the proponents of legalization, pot is dangerous (and more harmful to your health than cigarettes, which are horrible for you themselves).


then we should ban alcohol too, since it is just as dangerous as pot.

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#1027163 - 08/25/08 03:49 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . kms
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Look I have heard it stated even here in BOL "you wont see anyone driving on pot killing anyone" I am trying to make the point that it can.


nice strawman.

nobody has ever said this. driving under the influence of anything is foolish. same goes for prescribed medicines.

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#1027164 - 08/25/08 03:52 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . GuitarDude
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and more harmful to your health than cigarettes

because people smoke 20 joints/day like they smoke cigarettes not the 1 joint/week.

stop moralizing. if you feel so strongly about the dangers pf substances, repeal the amendment that repealed prohibition.

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#1027170 - 08/25/08 03:57 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . Hated By Some
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"nobody has ever said this'

you sure about this?
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#1027174 - 08/25/08 03:59 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . kms
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ok, "nobody" is an impossibly strong term. how about you provide your evidence instead?

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#1027178 - 08/25/08 04:02 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . Hated By Some
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ok, "nobody" is an impossibly strong term. how about you provide your evidence instead?


Hey Bucko, you've said it before.

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#1027179 - 08/25/08 04:02 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . Hated By Some
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kms, we need 20 sources for your info, but those 20 sources must meet the approval of the "legalize it" crowd. Good luck...
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#1027180 - 08/25/08 04:03 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . Hated By Some
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#1027181 - 08/25/08 04:03 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . BurntSienna
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Driving under the influence of a legally prescribed drug is dangerous and potentially could end in killing someone else, also. Should legal prescription medication be illegal, too?

The simple fact is, driving requires responsibility and common sense. Those who do not have any of either should not drive, and we ought to take away their licenses.

The legalization of marijuana and/or criminalization of alcohol are a whole other ball of wax, IMHO.


I agree. Apples and oranges.

People fall asleep at the wheel all time time too, and have killed people when that's happened. You wouldn't compare that to smoking pot or drinking alcohol and driving.
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#1027182 - 08/25/08 04:03 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . Hated By Some
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and more harmful to your health than cigarettes

because people smoke 20 joints/day like they smoke cigarettes not the 1 joint/week.

stop moralizing. if you feel so strongly about the dangers pf substances, repeal the amendment that repealed prohibition.


We don't need to repeal that to keep pot illegal silly stoner. It's already illegal. Nowhere in the constitution does it say you have the right to get high.

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#1027184 - 08/25/08 04:04 PM Re: Driving under innfluence(of Pot) does hurt . GuitarDude
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kms, we need 20 sources for your info, but those 20 sources must meet the approval of the "legalize it" crowd. Good luck...


Let me call student records and see if they can dig up any research that I did...
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