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#1032687 - 09/02/08 04:49 PM Where's the Liberal outrage now???
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I seem to remember the Liberals have a big problem with Cheney getting 5 Deferments. Where's the Liberal outrage over Biden's Deferments???

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Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War, the same number of deferments received by Vice President Dick Cheney, and later was disqualified from service because of asthma as a teenager.



http://www.courant.com/news/politics/ats-ap-cvn-biden-vietnamaug31,0,2934547.story
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#1032695 - 09/02/08 04:53 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Bimmer
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#1032698 - 09/02/08 04:53 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Bimmer
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Interesting because if the asthma had been brought up in the first place he would have automatically been DQ'd and not needed the deferrments. Unless it took them that long to come up with "doctors records"
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#1032701 - 09/02/08 04:55 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Bimmer
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Would it make you feel better if you were offered the same response you gave to concerns over Cheney's deferments?

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#1032703 - 09/02/08 04:56 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? kms
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That's what I was wondering.

If he had asthma as a teen, would it not have disqualified him in the first place? Why did it take seven years?
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#1032710 - 09/02/08 04:59 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? A_G
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I am guessing a conspiracy theorist as well as a condescending conservative would say the asthma had a correlation with graduation from law school.......
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#1032711 - 09/02/08 05:00 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Pale Rider
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Perhaps he developed asthma when he found out how much he had to repay in student loans

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#1032712 - 09/02/08 05:00 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Hrothgar Geiger
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Originally Posted By: AML-Barbarian
Would it make you feel better if you were offered the same response you gave to concerns over Cheney's deferments?


I guess if you are a totally partisan lady then yes. But we already know you will just do whatever the Donkey tells you to. Baaaaaaaaa
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#1032714 - 09/02/08 05:01 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Lisa_Bates
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Perhaps he developed asthma when he found out how much he had to repay in student loans


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#1032716 - 09/02/08 05:02 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Lisa_Bates
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It's ok, RonMex and AMLB will provide us with some perfectly acceptable reason why Cheney's deferrments were mere avoidance and the Honorable VP Candidate's are totally within reason.
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#1032775 - 09/02/08 05:45 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? TheManofSteel
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Originally Posted By: MagiciansNephew
It ok, RonMex and AMLB will provide us with some perfectly acceptable reason why Cheney's deferrments were mere avoidance and the Honorable VP Candidate's are totally within reason.


Really? I will?

Fascinating. I can hardly wait to see what I'll say....

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#1032780 - 09/02/08 05:48 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? TheManofSteel
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I had asthma symptoms playing football in high school, but was not diagnosed with asthma until about 4 years ago, a time gap of some 24 years. I just assumed I had trouble catching my breath. It wasn't until I nearly blacked out from it that I complained to the doctor about it and he tested me. Now I carry a rescue inhaler all the time and use Advair daily. So, maybe Biden didn't know it was asthma when he was a teenager, but found out later?

I've got a buddy who served a tour in Iraq, even though the Army medical had found a problem with his lungs. When he got back from Iraq, they removed half of his left lung because of a "mass". They gave him a medical discharge, but not until they got a battle tour out of him.
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#1032795 - 09/02/08 05:55 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Mint Julep
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Not a lot of talk about how Biden voted the same as Hillary on the war in Iraq, either...yet. I'm sure all of this will get more play in the debates and campaigning.

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#1032808 - 09/02/08 05:59 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Truffle Royale
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Not a lot of talk about the legal troubles for Biden's Son and Brother either.
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#1032818 - 09/02/08 06:07 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? kms
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Interesting because if the asthma had been brought up in the first place he would have automatically been DQ'd and not needed the deferrments.


Student deferments were routinely granted while you were a full-time student in college. A deferment was just a postponement of your draft obligation, not anything suspect or wrong. Virtually every male college student had one. The issue only came to a head when your eligibility for deferments ran out.

Cheney wasn't criticized for deferments, he did get some heat for saying he had "other priorities" rather than serving.

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#1032844 - 09/02/08 06:30 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Yossarian
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really, Cheney wasn't criticized for "dodging" the draft!?!?!?!

take a look at the above.................
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#1032852 - 09/02/08 06:33 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Pale Rider
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#1032858 - 09/02/08 06:38 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Hrothgar Geiger
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The lack of liberal outrage is just another example of their death grip on the mainstream media. It's really a sort of "chick and the egg" debate: Which came first, the liberal or the double-standard? Because, really, one would not exist without the other.
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#1032888 - 09/02/08 07:14 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Pale Rider
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really, Cheney wasn't criticized for "dodging" the draft!?!?!?!


Is that what I said? Or was it more like:

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Cheney wasn't criticized for deferments, he did get some heat for saying he had "other priorities" rather than serving


My point remains that student deferments didn't get you out of the draft permanently, they just delayed the process. Ultimately, Biden didn't serve because of his medical issue.

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#1032893 - 09/02/08 07:18 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Yossarian
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"other priorities' got one out from serving ?

Bimmer's point was Cheney being called a draft dodger, please see the first post.........
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#1032905 - 09/02/08 07:27 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Pale Rider
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Bimmer's point was Cheney being called a draft dodger, please see the first post.........


I did look at the first post and it still says:

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I seem to remember the Liberals have a big problem with Cheney getting 5 Deferments. Where's the Liberal outrage over Biden's Deferments???


And, once again, student deferments are just delays, not the ultimate reason for not serving. Bimmer is trying to make it appear that deferments are the issue rather than why someone ultimately didn't serve.

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#1032907 - 09/02/08 07:30 PM Re: Where's the Liberal outrage now??? Yossarian
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