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#1035736 - 09/05/08 06:13 PM Re: Economic News X O
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that's why economists look at data instead of following individual cases.

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#1035738 - 09/05/08 06:14 PM Re: Economic News KTMiteComply
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Vice President Gore's invention of the Internet caused normally hardworking people to goof off for hours online everyday instead of growing the economy. That's the economic reality Bush adopted and is why the economy is suffering. So, the poor economy is the fault of the Clinton Administration--as are most of the problems in the Universe, including Bristol Palin's pregnancy (cf. Monica Lewinsky).
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#1035741 - 09/05/08 06:15 PM Re: Economic News X O
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congrats XO!!!

doors close and open!

this is a great country where we have the freedom to be....
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#1035742 - 09/05/08 06:15 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Experience
i didn't believe his numbers but i didn't have the time to look them up when i posted that. the truth did come out, didn't it?

i see that your concern is more about attacking ron than addressing the economy.


Sure Ron. That is why you said you didn't believe the numbers.

And I guess I should spend more time engaging with someone who is so self-important that they feel compelled to spend their day on a bankers site, "setting the record straight" as if anything you say or do has any impact on anything or anyone.

Get over yourself Ron. The rest of us just laugh at you.

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#1035746 - 09/05/08 06:19 PM Re: Economic News straw
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straw's #1 issue: attacking ron.

say, i thought that you were done on the political threads? you took such an impressive stand and received such accolades for it. talk about self-importance some more, hypocrite.

btw, i didn't believe the numbers but i did accept the possibility that i could've been wrong so i decided to swallow my pride and not respond there. nevertheless, i was right. ok, you can go back to attacking me now.
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#1035749 - 09/05/08 06:19 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Experience
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Nah, I am just far more prosperous these last 8 years, last 4 in particular, than I ever was during the 1990's, when I almost went bankrupt.

economics lie! trust my synecdoche, people!

AWWW, how heart warming, he continues to use a word he learned of recently, and to boot, misuses it.

Keep the humor rolling boy wonder.
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#1035757 - 09/05/08 06:24 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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that GDP will get you every time


GDP growth:

1993 - 2.7
1994 - 4.0
1995 - 2.5
1996 - 3.7
1997 - 4.5
1998 - 4.2
1999 - 4.5
2000 - 3.7

2001 - 0.8
2002 - 1.6
2003 - 2.5
2004 - 3.6
2005 - 2.9
2006 - 2.8
2007 - 2.0

Hmmm 3.7% in 2000, four years at 4.0 or above, Bush's highest is 3.6%

GDP

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#1035759 - 09/05/08 06:24 PM Re: Economic News TheManofSteel
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(this should be good)

so amlf, how did i misuse syencdoche? like i misused utilitarianism?

how about we bypass extra back and forth to try to take focus off the issue in this thread and deal with your comment: when somebody makes the claim that they are doing fine so that everything else should be fine (or at least that is the implication)--in light of everything else NOT being fine-- that, my friend, is synecdoche.

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#1035762 - 09/05/08 06:25 PM Re: Economic News Yossarian
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that GDP will get you every time


GDP growth:

1993 - 2.7
1994 - 4.0
1995 - 2.5
1996 - 3.7
1997 - 4.5
1998 - 4.2
1999 - 4.5
2000 - 3.7

2001 - 0.8
2002 - 1.6
2003 - 2.5
2004 - 3.6
2005 - 2.9
2006 - 2.8
2007 - 2.0

Hmmm 3.7% in 2000, four years at 4.0 or above, Bush's highest is 3.6%

GDP

4 more years! 4 more years! 4 more years...

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#1035764 - 09/05/08 06:26 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Originally Posted By: Experience
straw's #1 issue: attacking ron.

say, i thought that you were done on the political threads? you took such an impressive stand and received such accolades for it. talk about self-importance some more, hypocrite.

btw, i didn't believe the numbers but i did accept the possibility that i could've been wrong so i decided to swallow my pride and not respond there. nevertheless, i was right. ok, you can go back to attacking me now.


No, you responded, but with your typical non-sequitur where you change the subject but argue that you did not.

I thought this was an economics thread, a topic you claim to have vast knowledge of but when pushed, you reveal the true depth of your knowledge to be about a thimble.

Get back to "setting the record straight" Ron. Obama needs you. His ratings may slip if you don't keep up this herculean task of keeping all us conservative bankers in line.

Too funny and too sad all at the same time.

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#1035773 - 09/05/08 06:31 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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I don't credit Presidents with economic growth and GDPs and all, but I am not an economist like y'all. I do have a question though.

If a President can cause the GDP to grow at a greater rate, what similarities are there between Clinton's policies and Obama's that would make you think we'd see a return to the glory days of the 90's?
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#1035777 - 09/05/08 06:32 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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[quote=Experience](this should be good)

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so amlf, how did i misuse syencdoche? like i misused utilitarianism?

when you look up the definition like a good jobless lawyer and then apply it to the lack of proper context, you will (still not)understand.

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how about we bypass extra back and forth to try to take focus off the issue in this thread and deal with your comment: when somebody makes the claim that they are doing fine so that everything else should be fine (or at least that is the implication)--in light of everything else NOT being fine-- that, my friend, is synecdoche.

I did focus on it, and you have yet to provide viable evidence of your position. XOXOXODUS has given the most compelling posts in here so far,and you have nothing, zero, zilch to take it down. You speak of numbers, but not numbers properly explained. EVERYONE EXCEPT YOU AND YOU WHINEY ILK know that the lax credit standards, the irresponsible credit taking behaviors of many people, and the oil spikes were all in spite of the Bush tax cuts.

Please, come on, please respond more of the same. Please do so, tell me more about conservative policies caused it Ron, come on, don't disappoint, we need your whining and finger pointing.
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#1035791 - 09/05/08 06:39 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Ahhhh still none of that supposed recession. When is that coming again?
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#1035799 - 09/05/08 06:44 PM Re: Economic News straw
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straw, i was pushed on precise statistics. i apologize for not having them memorized. i told you i that i didn't believe them logically but, because i didn't have them memorized i accepted the possibility that i could've been wrong so i didn't go farther down that path. coincidentally, because i know what i know, my instincts were correct.

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#1035809 - 09/05/08 06:48 PM Re: Economic News Sound Tactic
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Originally Posted By: StrawmanILK
Ahhhh still none of that supposed recession. When is that coming again?


Ask Chuck Schumer. He's good at forecasting economic-type stuff...
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#1035811 - 09/05/08 06:49 PM Re: Economic News Hated By Some
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Sadly, I think you actually believe that.

Now hurry up Ron. There is an experience discussion breaking out in another thread. You wouldn't want to let us conservative bankers mislead the other conservative bankers on this site about Obama.

Your work never ends.

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#1035920 - 09/05/08 07:45 PM Re: Economic News The OG Zaibatsu
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Originally Posted By: Jimmy Ringo
I don't credit Presidents with economic growth and GDPs and all, but I am not an economist like y'all. I do have a question though.

If a President can cause the GDP to grow at a greater rate, what similarities are there between Clinton's policies and Obama's that would make you think we'd see a return to the glory days of the 90's?


dang Jimmy! stop applying logic!
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#1035927 - 09/05/08 07:47 PM Re: Economic News Yossarian
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Originally Posted By: Yossarian
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that GDP will get you every time


GDP growth:

1993 - 2.7
1994 - 4.0
1995 - 2.5
1996 - 3.7
1997 - 4.5
1998 - 4.2
1999 - 4.5
2000 - 3.7

2001 - 0.8
2002 - 1.6
2003 - 2.5
2004 - 3.6
2005 - 2.9
2006 - 2.8
2007 - 2.0

Hmmm 3.7% in 2000, four years at 4.0 or above, Bush's highest is 3.6%

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Hmmm, lower real GDP in the first few years following a major terrorist attack on the nation's financial and commerce center, wow amazing.
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#1035929 - 09/05/08 07:48 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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External factors never effect our economy either. For example, our economy was only effected by Bush's policies, not at all by a terrorist attack that crippled our tourism industry, or higher gas prices which is effecting all our industries. Nor did natural disasters such as hurricane Katrina effect our economy at all.

BUT, should the Obaaaamessiah take office, we can be assured that he will use his messianic powers to control the weather, to prevent all terrorist attacks by mind controlling our enemies, and increase the value of a dollar overseas by treating with every leader in the world, regardless of sanity.
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#1035933 - 09/05/08 07:49 PM Re: Economic News TheManofSteel
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and prior to that Chris was the prior 4 quarters to Bush in 2000 already posted for Yoss that pointed to the coming recession.....

I don't know why we go to all the trouble..........

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#1035939 - 09/05/08 07:51 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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But BF, Bush caused 9/11 and Katrina.
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#1035952 - 09/05/08 07:57 PM Re: Economic News Pale Rider
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the coming recession.....


Oh, you mean the recession that came after ten full years of economic expansion, the longest time without a recession in US history?

How long did you expect that we would go without a recession? Forever?

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#1035956 - 09/05/08 08:01 PM Re: Economic News Blade Scrapper
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Originally Posted By: Dexter Morgan
But BF, Bush caused 9/11 and Katrina.
I forgot He was also responsible for the .com bubble bursting!

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#1035960 - 09/05/08 08:02 PM Re: Economic News Yossarian
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Originally Posted By: Yossarian
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the coming recession.....


Oh, you mean the recession that came after ten full years of economic expansion, the longest time without a recession in US history?

How long did you expect that we would go without a recession? Forever?

Thank you, someone from the left finally acknowledges the natural occurence of business cycle troughs.

Likewise, the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, as the chart will show, sent adjusted GDP (REAL GDP) into a tailspin that reset the growth standard for GDP for the next few years.
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#1035969 - 09/05/08 08:06 PM Re: Economic News B_F
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Originally Posted By: Dexter Morgan
But BF, Bush caused 9/11 and Katrina.
I forgot He was also responsible for the .com bubble bursting!
Of course Clinton would have protected us all from the hurricane, and The One would have just spoken, and the storm would have calmed.
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