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#1078137 - 11/06/08 09:16 PM
Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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"WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told the Wall Street Journal that she is considering a two-staged effort to boost the shaky U.S. economy, arguing for action now on a stimulus package of $60 billion to $100 billion, followed early next year by a companion measure that would include a "permanent tax cut." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122600310456906045.htmlNot sure why the WSJ published this, since according to Yoss, it is merely speculative and there is nothing to discuss until a bill is proposed.
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#1078161 - 11/06/08 09:28 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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It's not speculative if she actually talked about doing it. Big difference.
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#1078166 - 11/06/08 09:31 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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which is what Chuck Sschumer did, same thing, but I am sure you'll parse this too.
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#1078191 - 11/06/08 09:40 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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It's not speculative if she actually talked about doing it. Big difference. Well, what about this quote then, In 2007, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), a close ally of Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told The Hill, “ It’s time to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine. I have this old-fashioned attitude that when Americans hear both sides of the story, they’re in a better position to make a decision.” (emphasis added) Sounds like someone in the Democratic Congressional leadership talked about reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine. I'lll take it you see how this issue and the stimulus issue are either both speculative or both real, based on your own criteria.
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#1078267 - 11/06/08 10:12 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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Did he ever talk about doing something legislatively about the issue as Pelosi did? Somehow I think you would have posted that statement if he had. Obviously if he made that statement in 2007 he has done nothing in the last year.
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#1078278 - 11/06/08 10:22 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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Did he ever talk about doing something legislatively about the issue as Pelosi did? Somehow I think you would have posted that statement if he had. Obviously if he made that statement in 2007 he has done nothing in the last year. Seriously, what did he mean when he said it is time to reinstute the fairness doctrine. And I don't say the specific words from Pelosi that she said a legislative solution. Please post Pelosi's statement that says she will do something legislatively, then explain what the definition of reinstitute is.
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#1078280 - 11/06/08 10:23 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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Oh, TMOS of all people, says that I can't be taken seriously! That's great. Maybe you can work some crazy abortion opinion into this somehow too!
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#1078283 - 11/06/08 10:28 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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what did he mean when he said it is time to reinstute the fairness doctrine It sounds as though he was expressing an opinion. And then he didn't follow through on it, either by word or deed. Pelosi appears to be talking about actually introducing legislation.
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#1078438 - 11/07/08 03:20 AM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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you cannot find any quote in the article a specific statement from Pelosi that says she is introducing a bill, planning to introduce a bill or even thinking about planning to introduce a bill. What are you talking about? It specifically says she called for "a $60 billion-to-$100 billion stimulus package this month, followed early next year by a companion measure that would include a "permanent tax cut."
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#1078578 - 11/07/08 02:47 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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700 billion bailout here, 25 billion Ford and GM bailout there, 100 billion stimulus package over there...pretty soon it adds up to "real" money...money we don't even have now...and they haven't even started trying to pass any of the gazillion empty promises (lies) they made to get elected.
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#1078683 - 11/07/08 03:45 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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you cannot find any quote in the article a specific statement from Pelosi that says she is introducing a bill, planning to introduce a bill or even thinking about planning to introduce a bill. What are you talking about? It specifically says she called for "a $60 billion-to-$100 billion stimulus package this month, followed early next year by a companion measure that would include a "permanent tax cut." Did she introduce a bill? Or is she just opining. Which is what you said you were doing. So stop wasting your time by speculating. Or concede that this is the same as the Fairness Doctrine discussion.
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#1078704 - 11/07/08 03:53 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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Or is she just opining. Which is what you said you were doing. No YOU said that, I didn't. You also said you cannot find any quote in the article a specific statement from Pelosi that says she is introducing a bill, planning to introduce a bill or even thinking about planning to introduce a bill.
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#1078717 - 11/07/08 03:59 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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Or is she just opining. Which is what you said you were doing. No YOU said that, I didn't. You also said [/quote] No, here is what you said. It sounds as though he was expressing an opinion. And then he didn't follow through on it, either by word or deed. Pelosi appears to be talking about actually introducing legislation. I concede that while you did not say you think or believe, you said sounds and appears. But I would say that you were not stating a fact,, but if you say it is not opinion, I will let you define it how ever you wish. Quote: you cannot find any quote in the article a specific statement from Pelosi that says she is introducing a bill, planning to introduce a bill or even thinking about planning to introduce a bill. Ooh, got me on that one. Another point for Yoss on something tangential. Now, one more time, since you said it appeared that Pelosi was actually talking about introducing legislation, even though the article doesn't say that, please explain how that is different that our prior discussion about what democrat support for the Fairness Doctrine appears to mean for future legislation.
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#1078744 - 11/07/08 04:08 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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since you said it appeared that Pelosi was actually talking about introducing legislation, even though the article doesn't say that, please explain how that is different that our prior discussion about what democrat support for the Fairness Doctrine appears to mean for future legislation. This has gone past being ridiculous. OK, once more. She called for "a $60 billion-to-$100 billion stimulus package this month, followed early next year by a companion measure that would include a "permanent tax cut." So she called for not one, but two pieces of legislation. No one, to my knowledge has done that for the Fairness Doctrine.
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#1078801 - 11/07/08 04:26 PM
Re: Pelosi Favors Two-Step Stimulus, Seeks Permanent T
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I'm shocked I tell you, shocked
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