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#1145553 - 03/16/09 04:44 PM counter offer question
swthomeala Offline
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Can someone please tell me where I can find a definition for "what is a counter offer". I have someone who insists on being shown an "official" definition of what a counter offer is to compare to a denied loan.

The thinking here [not me] is that it is considered "counter offered" when they they are denied thru the credit score system but hold the documents to allow them time to bring in a co-signor or guarantor to make a good loan.

My explanation is that they were denied [adverse action notice not counter offer]. Bring in someone/something to the table to work with - then get approved - end of story. Thoughts, information, etc.?
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#1145565 - 03/16/09 04:53 PM Re: counter offer question swthomeala
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You will find no "formal" definition that I'm aware of, however, from 202.2

(c) Adverse action.

(1) The term means:

(i) A refusal to grant credit in substantially the amount or on substantially the terms requested in an application unless the creditor makes a counteroffer (to grant credit in a different amount or on other terms) and the applicant uses or expressly accepts the credit offered;



Simply telling an applicant you will reconsider the application if they provide a co-signer is not a counter-offer. You have made no "counter-offer" to grant credit. You have only placed an underwriting condition on the loan request that must be met before you will grant credit, therefore you have denied it as applied for.

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#1145684 - 03/16/09 06:26 PM Re: counter offer question Dan Persfull
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Thanks Dan. I have searched to no avail and could not find a direct definition. You have confirmed the information that I passed along to the lender about this not being a counter offer.
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#1145724 - 03/16/09 06:59 PM Re: counter offer question swthomeala
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