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#1161628 - 04/10/09 04:26 PM Dwelling Secured or Not?
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Here's the scenario: Borrowers buying a residential house to be used exclusively as a dog grooming facility. No apartment or rental income with this however part of the security is a 2nd mortgage on their personal residence. Although it meets the definition of a dwelling (residential structure), it is not used in any way as a residence. Would this be a HMDA reportable purchase?
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#1161724 - 04/10/09 05:30 PM Re: Dwelling Secured or Not? bugleboy
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For a purchase, you look at the collateral and the purpose. Since the purpose is to purchase a house to use as a business, it does not meet the HMDA requirements, even though their personal residence will be used for part of the collateral.

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#1161761 - 04/10/09 05:54 PM Re: Dwelling Secured or Not? Helium
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, HMDA Getting it Right doesn't show exemptions for business purpose. It states that a purchase of a dwelling is covered in this case.

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#1161808 - 04/10/09 06:21 PM Re: Dwelling Secured or Not? Complywithregs
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IMO because it is not going to be used as a residential dwelling, I wouldn't report it
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#1161814 - 04/10/09 06:23 PM Re: Dwelling Secured or Not? Complywithregs
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I agree with Helium. The purpose of the loan appears to be the purchase of a structure to use for a business...not to be used as a dwelling.

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#1161827 - 04/10/09 06:32 PM Re: Dwelling Secured or Not? Bullseye
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This has been addressed numerous times in the HMDA forum. Search under Dan Persful's name to find some of the threads.

In order for a building to be a 'dwelling' it has to be dwelt in. If it is going to be used for business purposes only, no matter what it was used for before, it is not HMDA reportable.

Conversely, a converted warehouse could be a dwelling even tho it was not formerly inhabited by humans.

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#1161838 - 04/10/09 06:39 PM Re: Dwelling Secured or Not? Truffle Royale
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Thanks to all who weighed in on this. We too believe it is not a HMDA transaction in that the "dwelling" in fact will not be a dwelling but rather entirely a commercial enterprise.
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