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#1204658 - 06/19/09 07:18 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already DD Regs
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I think Jon gets the better end of that deal.
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#1204703 - 06/19/09 07:48 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Sing A Little
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thats the rumor sing. She will probably drag it out as long as possible.
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#1204705 - 06/19/09 07:49 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already TB 12
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i saw on tabloid covers something about her slapping one of the girls in public. Maybe that is what the big annoucement is for
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#1204744 - 06/19/09 08:19 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already kms
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I love watching the little kids. Wish we could do that without the parents.
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#1204871 - 06/20/09 09:01 AM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already kms
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Originally Posted By: kms
i saw on tabloid covers something about her slapping one of the girls in public. Maybe that is what the big annoucement is for


Kate "slapped" (sorta playfully) Emeril Lagasse with a wooden spoon when he was at the house cooking for the Gosselin family.

Kate "spanked" her 5yo daughter Leah. Kate was on the phone and Leah refused to stop blowing a whistle. (Cameras were rolling.)

It was also said that Jon has been living in a room above the family garage.

(On a different note, I bet Octomom is glad to have the media circus off her back for a while. . . looks like there's another eight kids that they are interested in. crazy)

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#1204896 - 06/20/09 09:55 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Citrus
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Slapping to me involves the face. Spanking involves the rear. My son received spankings that involved two or three little swats to the rear and I'll bet he didn't get half a dozen of those. There were other punishments for misbehaving that got his attention better.
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#1204913 - 06/21/09 05:49 AM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Bagweaver
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Well, the update (before their big announcement on Monday) is that they are separating and beginning the divorce. Supposedly the producers are trying to find a "camera-friendly" apartment for Jon to live in.

Personally, I haven't watched all that much of this show until recently - there was a marathon and I saw several shows in a row.

Have they ever tried marriage counseling? Have they tried to repair their relationship? It just seems like it was over because they are both too stubborn to really try to make it work...at least for the sake of these 8 children. Have they never heard of sacrifice? It seems to be "all about me" and not for the good of the entire family.

There seemed to be many happy times in earlier days. With work, I would think they might be able to recapture some of what made them fall in love in the first place...

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#1204970 - 06/22/09 11:59 AM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Citrus
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You have to want the relationship to work and get outside help. It seems they don't want it to work.

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#1204974 - 06/22/09 12:05 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already pjs
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I agree. They both seem so targeted on what they want as individuals rather than what would be better for the children. Of course, based on Kate's on camera yelling, there's no telling how much goes on when the cameras aren't there, and it might be better for the kids in the long run for them to separate/divorce. You have to want the counseling to work before it can help.

It would be interesting to see who got or gave up what as a part of the divorce settlement.
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#1205075 - 06/22/09 02:27 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Bagweaver
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Jon seems like a decent guy, but he doesn't seem to give himself emotionally to Kate for some reason, and it seemed like that even in the early years. She seemed way more into him than he was into her.

If that is the truth, then a relationship like that can only last so long before it crashes and burns. She's got an attitude problem occasionally, but he just seems like he doesn't open up much and share.

Eh, that's my take anyway. Counseling sure seems like a good idea though.
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#1205080 - 06/22/09 02:34 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already MB Guy
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I don't think I would be opening up and sharing either, if what I always opened up about and shared was always wrong.
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#1205082 - 06/22/09 02:36 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already #Just Jay
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Originally Posted By: Just Jay
I don't think I would be opening up and sharing either, if what I always opened up about and shared was always wrong.


We're men, we should be used to that treatment, lol.

But, I am really just talking about good, open communication between spouses.
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#1205115 - 06/22/09 03:08 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already MB Guy
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#1205121 - 06/22/09 03:11 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already DD Regs
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Originally Posted By: DD Regs
Yeah, I open my ears, she opens her mouth.



you got a problem with that buddy?
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#1205190 - 06/22/09 04:12 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Pale Rider
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Originally Posted By: Pale Rider
Originally Posted By: DD Regs
Yeah, I open my ears, she opens her mouth.



you got a problem with that buddy?



If he does, I'm sure you have a doghouse you can lend him! laugh

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#1205486 - 06/22/09 07:42 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already pjs
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Did not say there was problem with it. She says it, I heard it, that settles it.



For this exact purpose I do not have a dog. If I ever do have a dog, he will have the best house in the hood.

(Fridge, Microwave, Cable, Flatscreen TV)
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#1205628 - 06/22/09 10:38 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already DD Regs
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It was just announced that they filed for divorce this afternoon.
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#1205670 - 06/23/09 06:43 AM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Buddy the Elf
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The second half of the show was terribly sad. frown

Whether it was true or not, it seemed as though Kate wanted to try to work on things and Jon didn't.

The restaurant outing was very sweet, though.

(Did Jon recently pierce his ears? During the interviews tonight his earrings were really sparkling.)

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#1205675 - 06/23/09 09:24 AM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Citrus
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That's no surprise about the divorce.
I'd really really have to have some concrete evidence that Kate WANTED to work things out.

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#1205715 - 06/23/09 12:44 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already pjs
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I am guessing that Kate wanted things to continue the way that they had for the past 10 years (or at least 5 years that this show has been on) where she belittled him and criticized everything about him in front of their children and the world. I doubt very much that she wanted to work things out or improve the relationship. If you just watched last night's show (or the few shows this season) without seeing the past seasons you would think that Jon was a real jerk.

I have to think that something catastrophic happened that created this break down and I am guessing that it was infidelity on one or the other's part. Either way, it is sad for the kids right now, but probably better for them in the long run. The best thing for them would be if Mom and Dad pulled the plug on this TV show and left them lead a somewhat normal life from here on out.
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#1205719 - 06/23/09 12:46 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already thomasj
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#1205727 - 06/23/09 12:53 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already thomasj
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Kate is really playing the "poor me" part. After all of the yelling and screaming she did at him for years, she had the nerve to say last night how Jon would get upset and yell.

Don't feel sorry for either one of them. I absolutely hate it for the kids but I guess it's better out of the situation than leave things as they are.

This will probably give Kate a new opportunity for a book and tour. Jon needs to hire a ghost-writer so that his side gets told also.
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#1205732 - 06/23/09 12:55 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Bagweaver
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#1205745 - 06/23/09 01:10 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already Bagweaver
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Originally Posted By: Bagweaver
Kate is really playing the "poor me" part. After all of the yelling and screaming she did at him for years, she had the nerve to say last night how Jon would get upset and yell.


And yet, the producers in five years never had this footage of him doing so to show, just her... hmmmmm....

They can only show what you give them to show.
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#1205903 - 06/23/09 03:08 PM Re: Jon & Kate Plus Eight - Enough Already MB Guy
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There are three sides to every story; his side, her side, and the truth, and most likely you're never going to get to the truth.
Amen. Millions of kids live through divorce. The 8 will too. Jon and Kate aren't monsters. If anything, the tv show has forced them to be civil, something lots of divorcing couples could take a hint from.

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