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#1211459 - 07/02/09 04:52 PM SAR or overreaching?
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Customer deposits large amount of cash into his personal checking account, which he then in turns cuts a check to the local taxing authority for back taxes, which the only reason he is paying them is so they will not suspend his liquor license.

Branch states that he says the source of the cash is his personal stash at home, (which is basically skimmed off his bar reciepts).

SARable events, or overreaching?
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#1211472 - 07/02/09 05:01 PM Re: SAR or overreaching? #Just Jay
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Hmmm...
My thoughts are:
How much cash are we talking about?
Are his usual cash deposits too low for his business?
Do you have similar businesses to compare to?
Why isn't he paying the taxes out of his business account?

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#1211474 - 07/02/09 05:03 PM Re: SAR or overreaching? MagicCity
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And to play devil's advocate:

It is not illegal or unusual these days, to keep cash at home.
You don't know that he has not documented any cash out that he may have taken, as a legal distribution.

(I know, - probably not likely..)

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#1211483 - 07/02/09 05:14 PM Re: SAR or overreaching? MagicCity
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Originally Posted By: MagicCity
Hmmm...
My thoughts are:
How much cash are we talking about? 30k
Are his usual cash deposits too low for his business? business accts are not kept here... well locally publized events, hence why we know what the money is for.Do you have similar businesses to compare to? na
Why isn't he paying the taxes out of his business account? wink

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#1211485 - 07/02/09 05:16 PM Re: SAR or overreaching? MagicCity
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Originally Posted By: MagicCity
And to play devil's advocate:

It is not illegal or unusual these days, to keep cash at home.
You don't know that he has not documented any cash out that he may have taken, as a legal distribution.

(I know, - probably not likely..)



Having the same thoughts as well... hence why I am concerned I may be overreaching by filing a SAR, but at the same time having worked in food/bev, and based on other conversations with like customers, being a heavy cash business...
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#1211488 - 07/02/09 05:17 PM Re: SAR or overreaching? #Just Jay
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Yes, I would file.
Reason: Unknown source of cash.

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#1212314 - 07/03/09 07:21 PM Re: SAR or overreaching? MagicCity
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I would not file on these facts. Seems to be speculation about the skimming and its not illegal to have lots of cash. File a CTR if the deposit exceeded 10K.

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#1212316 - 07/03/09 07:29 PM Re: SAR or overreaching? Dallas Fan
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I also would file.
In addition to unknown source of funds, unusual activity for his account.

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