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#1227978 - 08/05/09 11:57 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements dsaj
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If you are referring to escrowing, you do not have to escrow a HPML unless it is in first position.
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#1235188 - 08/19/09 04:28 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements dsaj
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Like most of you escrowing is new to our bank. I am having a trouble understanding how escrow works on a home equity when the borrower is not supposed to bring any money to closing. Will the initial escrow deposit be subtracted from the loan proceeds?
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#1235277 - 08/19/09 05:48 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements Lil'Belle
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Quote:
Will the initial escrow deposit be subtracted from the loan proceeds?


Or added to the loan amount. I also assume you are referring to a closed end home equity loan in a first lien position, otherwise escrow would not be required.
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#1235332 - 08/19/09 06:13 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements Dan Persfull
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Dan,

Thank you so much for your quick response. I really appreciate it. And yes, it is a closed end home equity loan in a first lien position that I was asking about.
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#1236895 - 08/21/09 03:55 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements Lil'Belle
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The HPML changes start Oct 1, 2009 with escrow not being compliant until April 1, 2010. Do the loans made between Oct 09 and April 10 have to be escrowed or only the loans forward from April 2010?

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#1236979 - 08/21/09 05:08 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements elebra
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You have no mandatory escrow requirements for loans prior to 4/1/10.
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#1237029 - 08/21/09 05:57 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements Dan Persfull
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Just to make sure I am not missing anything, on October 1st we must:

*Begin reporting the new Rate Spread on the HMDA LAR
*Identify HPMLs
*Verify repayment ability with 3rd party documents using the largest scheduled payment of P&I in the first seven years of the loan.
*Evaluate the DTI ratio and the income that the borrower will have after paying debt obligations.
*Observe limit of pre-payment penalties

Am I forgetting anything?

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#1237043 - 08/21/09 06:07 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements In Need of Help 101
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Sounds like you have it. IF you have a HPML, there are certain contract provisions.
There are also new advertising requirements for loans.
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#1237272 - 08/21/09 08:14 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements David Dickinson
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Contract provisions?

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#1237285 - 08/21/09 08:22 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements In Need of Help 101
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Prepayment penalties [ยง226.35(b)(2)].
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#1237302 - 08/21/09 08:32 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements David Dickinson
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Is there anyway to check loans we currently have on the books to see if they would be HPML if we were doing them in Oct. I know that sounds funny but we do 3 year loans and the rates are pretty high. Many of them were over the rate tolerance on HMDA.
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#1237309 - 08/21/09 08:37 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements CRAatBOK
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You should be able to pull the files you want to test and enter the information in the new calculator.

http://www.ffiec.gov/ratespread/newcalc.aspx
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#1238909 - 08/25/09 08:36 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements Dan Persfull
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If bank is not HmDA reportable, does it still have to comply with HPML?

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#1238932 - 08/25/09 09:03 PM Re: Upcoming Reg Z Escrow Requirements MiMi
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yes

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