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#1240905 - 08/28/09 11:58 AM SAFE
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our commercial and residential lenders will register under SAFE; however, I'm not sure of our branch managers. They never originate a residential mortgage with exception of an occasional HELOC. Does this make them a loan originator?

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#1240919 - 08/28/09 12:42 PM Re: SAFE trainer53
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The proposed rule contains a de minimis exception. Employees who acted as loan originator for 5 or fewer residential mortgage loans in the previous 12 months are exempted. (see Section 1507.101(c)(2) of the proposed rules)
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#1240923 - 08/28/09 12:47 PM Re: SAFE Sinatra Fan
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Somewhere in the middle
Definition of a Loan Originator

(3) LOAN ORIGINATOR.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The term ‘‘loan originator’’—
(i) means an individual who—
(I) takes a residential mortgage loan application; and
(II) offers or negotiates terms of a residential mortgage loan for compensation or gain;

Definition of Residential Mortgage:

(8) RESIDENTIAL MORTGAGE LOAN.—The term ‘‘residential mortgage loan’’ means any loan primarily for personal, family, or household use that is secured by a mortgage, deed of trust, or other equivalent consensual security interest on a dwelling (as defined in section 103(v) of the Truth in Lending Act) or residential real estate upon which is constructed or intended to be constructed a dwelling (as so defined).


Given these definitions, I would say you would want to register your branch managers, unless like SF has pointed out, your are sure they would not do at least 5 "residential mortgaged" loans per year.
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#1245440 - 09/04/09 03:22 PM Re: SAFE DD Regs
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Has this been approved? Where can I find a link to the regulation?

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#1245461 - 09/04/09 03:30 PM Re: SAFE ahkcompliance
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Several prior threads (search for SAFE). Here's one with a link to another . There is also a link to the reg in one of them.
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#1245504 - 09/04/09 03:59 PM Re: SAFE Deena
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Banks have to comply 180 days after the effective date, which has not been set yet.

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#1245631 - 09/04/09 05:37 PM Re: SAFE JGo
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So I guess since the registration system is still not ready, even tho the state's rules (my state anyway) are effective 9-7-09, there's nothing to actually DO yet?
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#1245728 - 09/04/09 06:28 PM Re: SAFE RR Joker
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I don't know about your state's rules, but ours exempt loan originators in federally regulated depository institutions because we will have to follow the federal rules. The federal rules (if I understand correctly) will be effective 180 days after the registry is up and running.

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#1245738 - 09/04/09 06:33 PM Re: SAFE Deena
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our's don't exempt FI loan originators, but pretty much mirrors the Federal rules. I am just guessing that until the national registry is up and running, we're just waiting?
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