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#1252278 - 09/17/09 06:47 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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My opinion is that the missile shield has not proven itself effective in testing to date, and it doesn't break my heart to stop a hideously expensive project that can't pass its own tests. I don't think it is at all ineffective, Hrothgar Gieger. IMHO, the Russkies' fear of it is a true indicator of its effectiveness. Putin and Medvedev are not laughing at it... You are welcome anytime at my poker game.....
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#1252280 - 09/17/09 06:47 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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well, I'm glad we've stopped this boondoggle that will enrich many construction firms overseas. I'd rather us keep the money at home, which will allow us to still spend as a boondoggle, but it will be our boondoggle enriching our companies! Take a look at the USA Today article on regional airports in today's edition for a great place that we can put another $20 billion!
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#1252284 - 09/17/09 06:50 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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resource wars, is that like the spice wars? He who controls the spice controls the universe...but we can call it oil for our purposes.
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#1252334 - 09/17/09 07:27 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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Surely Europe is for our intervention in WWII, but I've always looked at that as the last triumph of good over evil. Most of our engagements since then were resource or politically motivated. And 9/11 showed that our policies haven't made the world any safer. Wow. Just wow. The cold war was just politics? Defeating the communist march was pointless?
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#1252338 - 09/17/09 07:29 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
Hrothgar Geiger
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My opinion is that the missile shield has not proven itself effective in testing to date, and it doesn't break my heart to stop a hideously expensive project that can't pass its own tests. I don't think it is at all ineffective, Hrothgar Gieger. IMHO, the Russkies' fear of it is a true indicator of its effectiveness. Putin and Medvedev are not laughing at it... You are welcome anytime at my poker game..... is the removal of clothes involved?
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#1252346 - 09/17/09 07:37 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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Surely Europe is for our intervention in WWII, but I've always looked at that as the last triumph of good over evil. Most of our engagements since then were resource or politically motivated. And 9/11 showed that our policies haven't made the world any safer. Wow. Just wow. The cold war was just politics? Defeating the communist march was pointless? Did we defeat it, or just become a shadow of it? If anything it looks the the world is moving more toward a social/communism police state than it is towards liberty and freedom. What are all the communist countries doing? Infusing a little capitalism, but keeping their populace under the government's thumb. What's happened in "democratic/capitlist" countries? Unprecedented government expansion, theft through taxation and big government, and more surveillance and security over the people. Personally, I feel less free than I did 10 years ago, and I have to go through more government red tape than ever before. When I think that you cannot see it...Wow. Just...Wow!
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#1252347 - 09/17/09 07:37 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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My opinion is that the missile shield has not proven itself effective in testing to date, and it doesn't break my heart to stop a hideously expensive project that can't pass its own tests. I don't think it is at all ineffective, Hrothgar Gieger. IMHO, the Russkies' fear of it is a true indicator of its effectiveness. Putin and Medvedev are not laughing at it... You are welcome anytime at my poker game..... is the removal of clothes involved? How YOU doin?
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#1252405 - 09/17/09 08:10 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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My opinion is that the missile shield has not proven itself effective in testing to date, and it doesn't break my heart to stop a hideously expensive project that can't pass its own tests. I don't think it is at all ineffective, Hrothgar Gieger. IMHO, the Russkies' fear of it is a true indicator of its effectiveness. Putin and Medvedev are not laughing at it... You are welcome anytime at my poker game..... I don't think you want to play poker with him/her...if you know what I mean..just say'n
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#1252420 - 09/17/09 08:20 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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mum mum mum mah mum mum mum mah...
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#1252473 - 09/17/09 09:04 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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...p-p-poker face!
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#1252477 - 09/17/09 09:08 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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<--- doesn't have a preference as to when. After dark, middle of the day, whenever.
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#1252480 - 09/17/09 09:11 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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I'm glad this thread has finally degenerated - I was getting too serious!
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#1252484 - 09/17/09 09:13 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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it's a TV show!!!!
<--- no preference either I know! I dvr it so I can watch it whenever I want to. What did you think I was talking about? ( )
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#1252485 - 09/17/09 09:13 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
FBH
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"Why so serious?"
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#1252486 - 09/17/09 09:14 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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it's a TV show!!!!
<--- no preference either I know! I dvr it so I can watch it whenever I want to. What did you think I was talking about? ( ) DVRs it too!
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#1252490 - 09/17/09 09:16 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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is a DVR like a VCR or one of them gadgets?
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#1252498 - 09/17/09 09:19 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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see, now therein lies a clue to the age of the universe, if you know what I mean.......... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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#1252602 - 09/18/09 12:12 PM
Re: Everyone's thoughts?
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Rober Gates seems to think it is the right thing to do, wasn't he a Bush appointee?
"So Obama has torn up the old defense plan and replaced it with one the Pentagon says will be more effective.
It's a gamble, but so was the Bush approach.
Pentagon chief Robert Gates offered sound technical reasons Thursday for Obama's decision to scrap his predecessor's approach, which was unfolding slowly and causing diplomatic headaches for Washington.
If the assertions laid out by Gates prove correct — if, in particular, Iran is not developing a long-range missile as quickly as previously assumed — then the revised missile defense system in Europe makes military sense. Gates says it could be adapted later to meet a long-range missile threat if that emerges.
Gates' explanation did little to shield the administration from a barrage of political strikes by Republicans who portrayed Obama's shift as a weak-kneed capitulation to Russia and an abandonment of U.S. allies.
Before Gates had even finished his news conference, House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio issued a statement accusing Obama of a "willful determination to continue ignoring the threat posed by some of the most dangerous regimes in the world." He said Obama had sold out the allies and empowered Iran."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-ap-us-us-missile-defense-analysis,0,2360990.story
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#1252605 - 09/18/09 12:24 PM
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yeah...just like it...except you need to use the 8-track victrola with it fixed for historical accuracy..
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#1252617 - 09/18/09 01:05 PM
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This is one for the record books. I actually agree with FBH. I guess there is a first time for everything.
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