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#133708 - 11/24/03 05:17 PM Insomniac!
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Ok, how many of us have trouble sleeping? Three days in a row, I have woken up at 3:30 am, and have been unable to go back to sleep.

Now, it's 12:00 eastern time and I am cranky and have a horrible headache!

I am ready to go home...Is it the job???
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#133709 - 11/24/03 05:24 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I think there is nothing worse than broken sleep. I sometimes go all week long that way. I have already gone to bed at 10:00 PM...only to get up at 1:00 AM and just not be able to go to sleep. This may continue for several days (of course, not with those exact time frames, but still not sleep)

You want to talk about cranky?
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#133710 - 11/24/03 05:45 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Maria, I did the exact same thing. Usually that means I'm worried about something but haven't figured it out yet. I think I've figured it out (work related) and I'm working to recitfy the situation today. Good luck sleeping better tonight. Not that I'm into taking drugs too much, but have you thought about taking something like Tylenol PM? I have some at home but I've only taken them once I think.
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#133711 - 11/24/03 05:49 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Oh, you mean the examiners being here Thanksgiving week and the BSA officer is on a hunting vacation, might have something to do with this????
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#133712 - 11/24/03 05:51 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Oh, you mean the examiners being here Thanksgiving week and the BSA officer is on a hunting vacation, might have something to do with this????


Only if it's a new phenomenon. But look at the bright side, Maria- waking up in the middle of the night means less chance of sleepwalking.

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#133713 - 11/24/03 05:53 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Only if it's a new phenomenon. But look at the bright side, Maria- waking up in the middle of the night means less chance of sleepwalking.




ROFLOL, Jac, I had tears in my eyes...I guess I'll never live down the German thing, eh?
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#133714 - 11/24/03 06:00 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I've been an insomniac for about 5 years now. I get sooo sleepy about 5:30 or 6:00 pm, but once I make it past 8:00pm, I'm up until at least 1:00 or 2:00am usually. If I do manage to go to sleep at a decent time, I wake up off and on all night. I have to have a nap on Saturday or Sunday just to make it. I've tried everything from over the counter sleep aids to prescriptions for sleeping pills. I don't know if I just have an incredible tolerance or what but they don't work for me. Even reading compliance material won't put me to sleep
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#133715 - 11/24/03 06:03 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Gee elena,
Too bad you are going to bed when I am getting up, or I could call you and we could chat about the latest and greatest in compliance!
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#133716 - 11/24/03 06:22 PM Re: Insomniac!
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ROFLOL


It's less than an hour after you started this thread, and the crankiness is already going away!

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#133717 - 11/24/03 06:33 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Maria, you and the Junebug seem to be on the same schedule. Although in her case it does seem to be somewhat related to teething - are you teething by any chance?? However, while SHE can go back to sleep, once I'm up, I'm UP. I really am getting tired (literally) of getting up at 4am.
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#133718 - 11/24/03 07:11 PM Re: Insomniac!
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When I can't sleep, I start reading regulations. Works every time.

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#133719 - 11/24/03 07:25 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Gee elena,
Too bad you are going to bed when I am getting up, or I could call you and we could chat about the latest and greatest in compliance!




Call away! I log on to BOL sometimes just to see who's online, and every once in a blue moon I'll find someone in the middle of the night. I logged on Sunday after Mass and was the only one online. It was creepy, so I left.
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#133720 - 11/24/03 07:52 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Gee elena,
Too bad you are going to bed when I am getting up, or I could call you and we could chat about the latest and greatest in compliance!




WHAT ARE YOU PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW?



Also, I'll second the motion that you and Elena should get together, what a pair! (with Elena spending the most time on the BOL Couch or in the Watercooler)

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#133721 - 11/24/03 07:58 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Whenever I get in sleepless routine, I take a shot of Nyquil. I get a good night of sleep and wake up without any hangover effects. It works for me.

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#133722 - 11/24/03 08:01 PM Re: Insomniac!
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WHAT ARE YOU PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW?



Also, I'll second the motion that you and Elena should get together, what a pair! (with Elena spending the most time on the BOL Couch or in the Watercooler)



Gee Ray, I thought you weren't the "couch" type. Don't lurk if you don't like it!

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#133723 - 11/24/03 08:04 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Although I am fascinated by the stuff on the History Channel the voice of the narrators is soothing enough to put me to sleep. It works almost every night. Give it a try.
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#133724 - 11/24/03 08:06 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Thanks for the tips: Nyquil, Tylenol PMs, History channel... and so on...
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#133725 - 11/24/03 08:09 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Excedrin PMS - - - That must be a new one.

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#133726 - 11/24/03 08:15 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I haven't slept through the night in years, but I did finally learn not to get up! I just stay up and end up ugly the next day

This time of year is the worst. It gets light about 10 am, and turns dark after 3 pm so my body clock says "it's dark, go to sleep" at 3, but they actually expect me to stick around here til later than that. Then when I get home, my body clock says "missed your opportunity sweetie, now you're gonna suffer til after 1 am til you learn your lesson"

My body clock might be possessed...it talks a lot!
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#133727 - 11/24/03 08:17 PM Re: Insomniac!
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The Doctor is in:

Your problem is GUILT. You spend way too much time on the Couch and in the Watercooler, in fact, you are one of the three most prolific posters to those forums during working hours, according to my analysis. Of course, Elena is right up there with you, so there is some sort of shared experience going on that's now been acknowledged in this thread.

The answer - get back to work, work hard and you will begin to sleep well, knowing that you've given your employer 100%.

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#133728 - 11/24/03 08:22 PM Re: Insomniac! *DELETED*
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#133729 - 11/24/03 08:25 PM Re: Insomniac!
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You spend way too much time on the Couch and in the Watercooler, in fact, you are one of the three most prolific posters to those forums during working hours, according to my analysis. Of course, Elena is right up there with you,


And rounding out the top three is our good friend, and long time BOL User- anonymous.

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#133730 - 11/24/03 08:43 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Gee anon, that was really helpful. I wonder what I'd do without your superior insight?
However, having just got an Outstanding on my compliance examination, I can't help but inform you that your diagnosis must be incorrect. Perhaps I can just do more than one thing at a time.

It's no wonder that malpractice insurance is so high for doctors.




Oh, please get a second opinion, but GUILT is the diagnosis.

By the way, I'm unaware of a regulatory entity that would give an "outstanding" rating in compliance to any financial institution. I believe the highest is "1", but the worl "outstanding" is really not part of regulatory vocabulary. So, perhaps, add delusional as a secondary ailment. Go will this plan, you will sleep a lot better.

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#133732 - 11/24/03 08:59 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I'm unaware of a regulatory entity that would give an "outstanding" rating in compliance to any financial institution. I believe the highest is "1", but the worl "outstanding" is really not part of regulatory vocabulary.




A little homework is always good before you start typing. CRA (the Community Reinvestment Act) designates banks by the term Outstanding, Satisfactory, etc.

Each portion of the exam also has verbiage that highlights the banks efforts in meeting every piece of the regulation. The word "Outstanding" can be used quite often.

It is also used in HMDA in discussing the bank's programs, as well as many other words that when added up can lead the bank to a hint on their final exam determination if the context of the word is compared to the exam outcome scores. This is accomplished by using examiner guidebooks. (Adequate will garner you a Satisfactory, Outstanding or Excellent will garner you a higher rating in an exam, etc.).
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#133733 - 11/24/03 09:06 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Well it was a One (1), but he told my CEO that it was an "Outstanding" program, which was relayed to me by my CEO. And although, I don't really need to justify myself to a priggish anonymous flea-bag, I do enjoy egging you on!

Ray, Ray, go away, don't come back on any day...




Maria: Perhaps this will help:



Or, try doing this:<"img src=http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/misc/roll.gif">

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#133734 - 11/24/03 09:12 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Actually this:


Or, perhaps:

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#133735 - 11/24/03 09:20 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Maria,
I do believe we have a stalker. We just came through an exam with flying colors also. Yeah, I spend lots of time at the Watercooler and on the Couch, but my employer gets every pennys worth of my salary from me. I started to get really ticked off, but ya know what Maria, he just wants a response. Like a schoolyard bully, or imature child who picks fights with anyone just for the heck of it, this is how this sad person gets his jollys. If he didn't lurk around all the time, he would have no idea when we are in the forums. Blow him off, that's what I'm doing.
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#133736 - 11/24/03 09:28 PM Re: Insomniac!
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And, if all else fails:



Or, I could pay you a real short visit through the PC to make sure you sleep:




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#133737 - 11/24/03 09:33 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Eat a light dinner, do not "spot sleep", such as on the couch in front of the TV; then go to bed as late as possible without being overtired. You should then find yourself sleeping without interruption. Are you involved in an exercise routine? Even walking? Mid-sleep wake-ups are the worst thing, but don't resort to controlled medication to "help" you; it doesn't help.

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#133738 - 11/24/03 09:40 PM Re: Insomniac!
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you are one of the three most prolific posters to those forums during working hours, according to my analysis.


If Anon has that much time and negative energy to spend, maybe a career change out banking is what the Doctor ordered for him/her. Anon come out of the closet and be responsible for your comments like everyone else.

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#133739 - 11/24/03 09:42 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I went through a long spell of waking up and not being able to get back to sleep. I finally solved it (at least so far - it's been a couple of years) by switching to a clock I couldn't see from bed, and deciding I would stay in bed until the alarm went off, no matter what. When I woke up and I had no idea if it was 11:30 or 5:00, I didn't get that frustrated, panicked feeling, and I wouldn't lay there debating about whether or not to get up.
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#133740 - 11/24/03 09:47 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I think most of these BOL Couch respondents are already deeply involved in controlled substances prescribed as part of a structured regimen. This is the same crew that, absent computers, would be on the telephone all day. This thread only invites subnormal behavior from people with congenital development issues. Every boss is said to be bad, sexist, mean, pushy; banking is bad, mean, pushy; and work is bad, mean and pushy. Holy Mensa, Batman!

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#133741 - 11/24/03 10:10 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Ouch!!!!!!!!! You are being really mean.

If you think that about these posts and posters why are you even bothering to respond.

By the way, Go away!!!!!!!!!
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#133742 - 11/24/03 10:28 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Does this happen all the time? If not, maybe it is stress related. Those *^%^* examiners! Does the hum of a fan help at all? I can't sleep without one. We just purchased a sleep comfort bed -you can adjust the firmness of your side. Finally, my husband is sleeping through the night.


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#133743 - 11/24/03 11:03 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I like to keep a really mellow CD in the stereo, low volume so that I can barely hear it. I just flip this on and go back to bed. This helps me more than the TV because I end up paying attention to the TV but can let the mind relax with music.
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#133744 - 11/24/03 11:14 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I believe the highest is "1", but the worl "outstanding" is really not part of regulatory vocabulary.




If thats so I think the FFIC will be suprised to learn of it. The following is from their web site

Rating assigned at the exam.
1 = Outstanding, 2 = Satisfactory, 3 = Needs to Imporve 4= Substantial Non compliance

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#133745 - 11/25/03 04:46 AM Re: Insomniac!
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Whoa, the latest anon needs to get in touch with his feminine side. He must be single ladies, so take pity on him. Obviously, he doesn't understand woman need to communicate and verbalize. Its the old men are from mars explanation. Please accept my apologies on behalf of all the male BOLers. My wife is up most of the night, fortunately she can sleep in so it is bearable. But I am not much of a commuicator either so she does have to tolerate that. Ooh, look at the time, I need to get my 6 hours sleep. Night to all !
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#133746 - 11/25/03 05:08 AM Re: Insomniac!
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It just dawned on me that I am burning the midnight oil by reading the insomnia thread....

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#133747 - 11/25/03 08:56 AM Re: Insomniac!
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Ditto.
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#133748 - 11/25/03 01:59 PM Re: Insomniac!
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isn't it ironic... don't you think!
I've also tried the turning the clock... it does work. I 've also used one of those white noise machines. They work like a charm for me.
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#133749 - 11/25/03 02:12 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Maybe that's my problem. I always sleep where I can see the clock. I absolutely despise hearing the alarm in the morning. 90% of the time I turn the alarm clock off prior to it ringing AND somehow I never oversleep.
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#133750 - 11/25/03 03:30 PM Re: Insomniac!
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I believe the highest is "1", but the worl "outstanding" is really not part of regulatory vocabulary.



If thats so I think the FFIC will be suprised to learn of it. The following is from their web site
Rating assigned at the exam.
1 = Outstanding, 2 = Satisfactory, 3 = Needs to Imporve 4= Substantial Non compliance





Who said it was a CRA exam? An FDIC "Compliance Exam," as originally noted is rated:

One
An institution in this category is in a strong compliance position. Management is capable of and staff is sufficient for effectuating compliance. An effective compliance program, including an efficient system of internal procedures and controls, has been established. Changes in consumer statutes and regulations are promptly reflected in the institution's policies, procedures and compliance training. The institution provides adequate training for its employees. If any violations are noted they relate to relatively minor deficiencies in forms or practices that are easily corrected. There is no evidence of discriminatory acts or practices, reimbursable violations, or practices resulting in repeat violations. Violations and deficiencies are promptly corrected by management. As a result, the institution gives no cause for supervisory concern.

Two
An institution in this category is in a generally strong compliance position. Management is capable of administering an effective compliance program. Although a system of internal operating procedures and controls has been established to ensure compliance, violations have nonetheless occurred. These violations, however, involve technical aspects of the law or result from oversight on the part of operating personnel. Modification in the bank's compliance program and/or the establishment of additional review/audit procedures may eliminate many of the violations. Compliance training is satisfactory. There is no evidence of discriminatory acts or practices, reimbursable violations, or practices resulting in repeat violations.

Three
Generally, an institution in this category is in a less than satisfactory compliance position. It is a cause for supervisory concern and requires more than normal supervision to remedy deficiencies. Violations may be numerous. In addition, previously identified practices resulting in violations may remain uncorrected. Overcharges, if present, involve a few consumers and are minimal in amount. There is no evidence of discriminatory acts or practices. Although management may have the ability to effectuate compliance, increased efforts are necessary. The numerous violations discovered are an indication that management has not devoted sufficient time and attention to consumer compliance. Operating procedures and controls have not proven effective and require strengthening. This may be accomplished by, among other things, designating a compliance officer and developing and implementing a comprehensive and effective compliance program. By identifying an institution with marginal compliance early, additional supervisory measures may be employed to eliminate violations and prevent further deterioration in the institution's less-than-satisfactory compliance position.

I don't see the word outstanding noted, do you? Perhaps the "FFIC," as you originally noted has a different system, maybe in another country.

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#133751 - 11/25/03 03:35 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Quote:

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I believe the highest is "1", but the worl "outstanding" is really not part of regulatory vocabulary.



If thats so I think the FFIC will be suprised to learn of it. The following is from their web site
Rating assigned at the exam.
1 = Outstanding, 2 = Satisfactory, 3 = Needs to Imporve 4= Substantial Non compliance





Who said it was a CRA exam? An FDIC "Compliance Exam," as originally noted is rated:

One
An institution in this category is in a strong compliance position. Management is capable of and staff is sufficient for effectuating compliance. An effective compliance program, including an efficient system of internal procedures and controls, has been established. Changes in consumer statutes and regulations are promptly reflected in the institution's policies, procedures and compliance training. The institution provides adequate training for its employees. If any violations are noted they relate to relatively minor deficiencies in forms or practices that are easily corrected. There is no evidence of discriminatory acts or practices, reimbursable violations, or practices resulting in repeat violations. Violations and deficiencies are promptly corrected by management. As a result, the institution gives no cause for supervisory concern.

Two
An institution in this category is in a generally strong compliance position. Management is capable of administering an effective compliance program. Although a system of internal operating procedures and controls has been established to ensure compliance, violations have nonetheless occurred. These violations, however, involve technical aspects of the law or result from oversight on the part of operating personnel. Modification in the bank's compliance program and/or the establishment of additional review/audit procedures may eliminate many of the violations. Compliance training is satisfactory. There is no evidence of discriminatory acts or practices, reimbursable violations, or practices resulting in repeat violations.

Three
Generally, an institution in this category is in a less than satisfactory compliance position. It is a cause for supervisory concern and requires more than normal supervision to remedy deficiencies. Violations may be numerous. In addition, previously identified practices resulting in violations may remain uncorrected. Overcharges, if present, involve a few consumers and are minimal in amount. There is no evidence of discriminatory acts or practices. Although management may have the ability to effectuate compliance, increased efforts are necessary. The numerous violations discovered are an indication that management has not devoted sufficient time and attention to consumer compliance. Operating procedures and controls have not proven effective and require strengthening. This may be accomplished by, among other things, designating a compliance officer and developing and implementing a comprehensive and effective compliance program. By identifying an institution with marginal compliance early, additional supervisory measures may be employed to eliminate violations and prevent further deterioration in the institution's less-than-satisfactory compliance position.

I don't see the word outstanding noted, do you? Perhaps the "FFIC," as you originally noted has a different system, maybe in another country.




Don't you have something more productive to do with your time than give us grief? Yeah, I know, don't I have something better to do than hang out on the Couch or at the Watercooler? I do other work while I check in and out. What's your excuse?
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#133752 - 11/25/03 04:38 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Don't you have something more productive to do with your time than give us grief? Yeah, I know, don't I have something better to do than hang out on the Couch or at the Watercooler? I do other work while I check in and out. What's your excuse?




Give you grief? I'm trying to get you off the couch and away from the watercooler, so that you can get your work done and look at new projects as I assume that someone is paying you, correct?

As for my time, is it not great that I'm willing to share all this insight? Someone has to help out the little people, right? In your case, think about not responding and perhaps I'll go away

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#133753 - 11/25/03 04:56 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Anon. makes a great point. "Don't respond to him and he will go away"
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#133754 - 11/25/03 06:38 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Give you grief? I'm trying to get you off the couch and away from the watercooler, so that you can get your work done and look at new projects as I assume that someone is paying you, correct?




I'm sorry, but you have simply got to be kidding!! What possible basis do you have to concern yourself with how anyone on this board is spending their time? If Maria and Elena spent 100% of their time on BOL and never got a lick of work done, it is still NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

Clearly Maria and Elena's respective managers are more than satisfied with their productivity, but if they weren't, it's up to them to do something about it, not you.

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As for my time, is it not great that I'm willing to share all this insight? Someone has to help out the little people, right? In your case, think about not responding and perhaps I'll go away




Please go away.
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#133755 - 11/25/03 07:00 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Land of "uffda"
Have you tried reading compliance regulations or IRA disclosures before bed?? It works for me.... along with a strong Morgan & coke!!

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#133756 - 11/25/03 07:09 PM Re: Insomniac!
Anonymous
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I am posting this Anon to give you guys some insight on the "other Anon" who is being mean to everyone!!

I don't know if you guys remember but this Anon once called CubDave a big head - He was previously know as Tenacious and then changed to 111 and now posts Anon - He also picked up on Alien a couple of times....

Now you know who this A** Hole is!!




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#133757 - 11/25/03 07:15 PM Re: Insomniac!
Anonymous
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Captain Morgan's proposal is very sound indeed. I recently read the entire final rule amending the Regulation D reserve requirements, then read the COSO integration and interim final rules to the risk-based capital guidelines. I became so tired that my head almost hit my desk. That night I slept like a baby. Regulatory issuances are very sleep-inducing indeed! Thanks, Captain!

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#133758 - 11/25/03 07:19 PM Re: Insomniac!
Brandy Osborne Offline
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 660
KY
I thought the tone of this thread was woefully familar... and perhaps the same sweet anon who has been degrading the banking profession and those of us in it in the other thread. What is it that they say about idle hands... perhaps our little friend has so little to do, or isn't earning his keep that he must spend his time harrassing us.
as to my time at my work and what i do with it... It's called multi-tasking!
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#133759 - 11/26/03 01:19 PM Re: Insomniac!
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 40,766
Turnpike Exit 10
Well I am sorry that I was out yesterday, but I wanted to thank all of the helpful posters. As usual, the cranky Anon got the best of me and most of the rest of us.
But we shall overcome...
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