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#1317204 - 01/04/10 08:53 PM
Section 311 FACT ACT
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The FRB and FTC have issued final risk-based pricing rules under section 311 of the FACT Act. The rules are effective on Jan.1, 2011. http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/bcreg/20091222b.htmQuestion: Today, we must provide borrowers with their credit scores- score disclosure notice under Section 212 of the FACT Act. Does this suffice, or will we have to supply something more if we elect to provide the scores?
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#1317255 - 01/04/10 09:25 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
David Dickinson
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I will put this on my "Regulations" that need to be reviewed list. It's a huge list!
When I come up with something, I will add to the post. Thanks.
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#1321484 - 01/08/10 10:28 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
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Does anyone know if it's been published in the Federal Register yet?
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#1321577 - 01/09/10 02:57 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
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Not that I have seen.
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#1324113 - 01/13/10 08:53 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
rlcarey
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It would be my understanding that if we do not engage in risk based pricing we do not have to provide any disclosures to our loan customers other than the Notice to Home Loan Applicants.
Right?
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#1325158 - 01/15/10 02:04 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
David Dickinson
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Note that the final rule includes exceptions for creditors that provide consumers who apply for credit with a notice consisting of their credit score and certain additional information, in lieu of the risk-based pricing notice.
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#1325272 - 01/15/10 03:53 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
David Dickinson
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No. Everyone will have to give the Risk Based Pricing disclosures. You'll divide up your loans into tiers. The bottom tiers get the disclosure. IOW, "we're making you this loan, but you didn't get the best rate." I like to call it the "modified loser" disclosure. If we were denying you, you'd be a loser. You're not a full loser, just a modified loser. I guess I don't get this, sorry. We have one rate each loan product, as an example for new car loans for 3 years and everyone gets that same rate if they qualify for the loan. The only difference would be the 1/4% discount for an auto debit from a checking account at our bank. We don't use the credit score to determine the rate, it is a mitigating factor in the credit decision process. That is how we handle all our consumer loans - we don't offer mortgage loans. So what tiers would we have?
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#1325303 - 01/15/10 04:04 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
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If you only have one rate, then you aren't doing risk-based pricing, are you?
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#1325366 - 01/15/10 04:40 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
Amos
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That's what I said before so I don't see how we would need to provide the disclsoure. But David said -- - - - -
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#1326453 - 01/19/10 04:38 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
David Dickinson
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That's ok, I'm easily confused these days. I am sure that we will need at minimum a policy that states that we do not engage in risk based pricing - CYA
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#1326568 - 01/19/10 06:00 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
corkygirl
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The final rule was published in the Federal Register on Friday, January 15.
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#1327479 - 01/20/10 07:35 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
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Questions. So this applies to all consumer lending or just residential real estate? If you do not pull credit reports it does not apply to your lending process?
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#1328046 - 01/21/10 04:25 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
one deer
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Does anyone know if there is a sample form out there somewhere?
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#1328633 - 01/22/10 03:49 AM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
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#1329130 - 01/22/10 06:48 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
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I see nothing that makes this real estate specific...is that correct? This time next year the Notice to Home Loan Applicant that we give on consumer residential real estate transactions will go away and be replaced by a disclosure that we give on ALL consumer transactions, regardless of real estate or not? Correct?
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#1335454 - 02/02/10 01:24 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
jlroberts
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Ok, you have set interest rates for each of your loan products.
What happens when a loan officer makes a rate "exception"?
Since this notice is predicated on the APR, what happens when the term is shortened by the loan officer and the APR is increased over and above your bank's set rates?
Hmmmm
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#1340360 - 02/09/10 07:44 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
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Just curious - we currently provide all applicants applying for consumer credit that will be dwelling secured with the Notice to Home Loan Applicants. We also provide any applicant who is applying for consumer credit and gets "less than the best terms" based on their credit report with a Risk Based Pricing Disclosure. The result is that some applicants are getting both, i.e., a HELOC customer who does not get the best available rate. I understand that the Notice to Home Loan Applicant is sufficient to meet the current requirements of section 311 so are we the only ones doing this? I don't want to be the outlier that gets criticized for over disclosure. Thanks for your feedback.
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#1340446 - 02/09/10 08:52 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
Ted Dreyer
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Sorry, poorly stated in regards to the "current requirements" piece. At present you are not sending out any sort of a Risk Based Pricing Notice?
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#1345372 - 02/18/10 05:00 PM
Re: Section 311 FACT ACT
Ted Dreyer
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Help me see the big picture for banks that do not use credit scores in connection with granting or extending credit.
For a bank that uses a consumer report, but not a credit score, in its credit evaluation process is permitted to rely on Credit Disclosure Score disclosure excpeption by purchasing and providing to the consumer a credit score. This part makes sense to me.
However,the other alternatives such as Tiered Pricing and Credit Score Proxy are also score driven. Therefore,leaving the option to purchase a credit score.
Would the only option for a bank not using a credit score be the Direct Comparison Method? What am i missing?
Thaks in advance.
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