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#137483 - 12/09/03 01:59 PM Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Call me a cynic, or call me a realist - but just like in real life the pretty girl that we all thought that wanted a nice guy - went for the good looking hunk - instead of the mature, motivated, friendly, successful, etc...
Never again do I want to hear a woman ask, "Where are all the nice guys?" - they're at the curb where you kicked them!
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#137484 - 12/09/03 02:03 PM Re: Averahe Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Ohhhhh Tex, that was harsh! We are not all like that!
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#137485 - 12/09/03 02:05 PM Re: Averahe Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Well, I'm still hopeful, for myself and my fellow average joes - but for now I'll content myself with my church, my nieces and nephews, and my job! I think I'm just getting to old for the games!
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#137486 - 12/09/03 02:08 PM Re: Averahe Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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I don't think all women play games, although some certainly do. Those are the 'high maintenance' women and you don't want them anyway.
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#137487 - 12/09/03 02:09 PM Re: Averahe Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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And some guys do, too!
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#137488 - 12/09/03 02:16 PM Re: Averahe Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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There's the other side of the coin too. Adam was a sweet, successful, yet "average" guy. But, I wonder if he would have been so smitten with an "average" girl instead of the former pro cheerleader . . .
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#137489 - 12/09/03 03:22 PM Re: Averahe Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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I hate to say it Maria, but it is fairly accurate what Tex says. At the church I attended several years ago, the women wanted to get married, but considered most of the men in the class "nerds." The woman who shepherded the singles class encouraged these nice girls to go out with some of these guys. Let me tell you, there were some guys there who I would not let my sister date, but there were some very quality guys in that class. These women thought of them as nerds though. This wise woman coined the phrase "recycle the nerd" and encouraged these women to give them another chance. They did and now several of them are married. I am amazed at some of the plainest looking guys who are now hitched to nice looking women. All of this because a wise woman took an interest.

Now, you may be asking yourself, "was zaibatsu one of the nerds?" Well, my wife insists that I was one of the prizes not one of the nerds. I have to say that I never had difficulty getting a date, but then again I never had difficulty asking for a date either.

P.S. My wife watched the last episode of that silly show last night and I caught the very end. All I can say is that fancy-boy that she picked was (in my opinion) just an actor hired to woo her. His pay was probably based on whether he could woo her away from the nerds. He did his job and now she gets to know the real man. I suspect he is a self-possessed creep. He just spends a little too much time on his body, hair, and clothes. She knows how to pick'em.
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#137490 - 12/09/03 03:25 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Notice that she really didn't pay Adam that much attention until she found out that he was wealthy. After she discovered how wealthy he was, then she became very humble and attentive to him. I was afraid she was going to pick him just because he was successful and rich. She actually had more in common with Jason than with Adam. And, I don't think she could have made Adam happy. She was very vain and would eventually not want to be seen with Adam because he is not pretty to look at. I was surprised that she didn't choose Adam, because she appeared to be so attracted to his money.

Did anyone else notice how much of last night's show was about her date with Adam and very little with Jason?

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#137491 - 12/09/03 03:26 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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If Adam would shave and fix his teeth he wouldn't be so bad.

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#137492 - 12/09/03 03:54 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Ah, but that's the point--looks were not supposed to be that important. He was born with those teeth. The shaving thing he could do and probably would if a woman in his life prefered him shaved. He is probably just trying to give his face some definition.
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#137493 - 12/09/03 04:00 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Thanks Boomermom - you helped to validate my point - the main reason he wasn't picked was because he wasn't a pretty boy! Why couldn't she accept him the way he was - because of her shallowness. It's a cruel world isn't it - so the next time anyone is tempted to slam men for pursuing the good-looking, younger lady - let's remember the shoe fits on both feet!
OK, hopefully I'm done venting about that ridiculous show - I think the only reason I got sucked into watching is I wanted to see what would win - substance or style - and style it is!

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#137494 - 12/09/03 04:10 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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I think that it's sad that so much emphasis is put on looks in our society. From the minute Jason walked onto the "set" I was sure that she was going to choose him. Does anyone remember the look on her face? Although she seemed impressed by the other two "hunks", she had a different look when he walked in. I think that things were pretty much decided at that point, but she had to continue to play the game and taking an "Average Joe" along to the F2 would keep some people guessing and possibly make her look better.

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#137495 - 12/09/03 04:19 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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From what I saw from watching the last part of the last show only: She was playing a game for the cameras. It was not a hard choice...she was after the actor who acted like he was a nice guy. The real Jason (or whatever his real name is) will come out soon and she will hit the road. Or maybe two self-absorbed people can find happiness in this world. Although I have never seen it happen.
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#137496 - 12/09/03 04:19 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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I can't agree with you guys yet. My guy, who is an absolute sweetheart, never cut his hair (I hate long hair on guys) and his clothes were always awful (didn't match, wrinkled, spotted, even). Talk about a nerd, all he needed was the pocket protector. But, he's very smart and has a great sense of humor. He now gets his haircut every 7 weeks (still too long for me) and takes his clothes and shirts to the cleaners (yes, I pick them out). And, he is my very own geekish type guy.
My ex was completely the opposite, he spent more time getting ready for a social event than I did. Maybe that's why I went for the nerdy guy I adore.
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#137497 - 12/09/03 04:24 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Anon - I also believe in making the best of what you have. If he truly wants to find a nice lady, why doesn't he try to make himself presentable? Sure there are a lot of nice guys that are not hunks. I'm not exactly a fashion model either, but I try to make myself look the best I can.

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#137498 - 12/09/03 04:46 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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In light of the conversation, I couldn't resist this one:

Husband Mart

A husband shopping center (Husband Mart) has just opened where a woman may go to choose a husband from among many men. The store is comprised of six floors, and the men increase in positive attributes as the shopper ascends the flights. There is, however, a catch. As you open the door to any floor you may choose a man from that floor, but if you go up a floor, you cannot go back down except to exit the building.

So a woman goes to the shopping center to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads: ‘Floor 1 - These men have jobs.’

The woman reads the sign and says to herself, "Well, that's better than my last boyfriend, but I wonder what's further up?" So up she goes.

The second floor sign reads: ‘Floor 2 - These men have jobs and love kids.’
The woman remarks to herself, "That's great, but I wonder what's further up?" And up she goes again.

The third floor r sign reads: ‘Floor 3 - These men have jobs, love kids and are extremely good looking.’
"Hmmm, better" she says. "But I wonder what's upstairs?"

The fourth floor sign reads: ‘Floor 4 - These men have jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking and help with the housework.’
"Wow!" exclaims the woman, "very tempting. BUT, there must be more further up!" And again she heads up another flight.

The fifth floor sign reads: ‘Floor 5 - These men have jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking, help with the housework and have a strong romantic streak.’
"Oh, mercy me! But just think... what must be awaiting me further on?" So up to the sixth floor she goes.

The sixth floor sign reads: ‘Floor 6 - You are visitor 123,456,789,012,345 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at Husband Mart and have a nice day.’

The views expressed in this joke do not necessisarily reflect the views of the poster.

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#137499 - 12/09/03 05:12 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Really, I'd like to see this show recycled as Average Jane and see what kind of commentary ensues when some dude gets to choose between some women of moderate attractiveness and normal bodies and a set of smokin' hot glamour babes.

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#137500 - 12/09/03 06:02 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Jac, that was very funny!
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#137501 - 12/09/03 06:20 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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I have to say that I think you guys and gals are taking these reality shows too seriously! No one in their right mind would go on these shows to find true love and romance! These people - men and women - just want to be discovered and make lots of money!
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#137502 - 12/09/03 06:25 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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I don't watch the reality shows per se, but have been known to watch one every great once in awhile. I tell you one thing, I'll be glad when this 'Trista and Ryan' thing is over. It's WAY too much for me. Their $1 million wedding was paid for by the network and they got paid $1 million to boot. Yes - true romance in the making.
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#137503 - 12/09/03 06:28 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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So much for "reality"!!!

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#137504 - 12/09/03 06:33 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Anon - I also believe in making the best of what you have. If he truly wants to find a nice lady, why doesn't he try to make himself presentable? Sure there are a lot of nice guys that are not hunks. I'm not exactly a fashion model either, but I try to make myself look the best I can.




My sentiments exactly! He looked like he had just rolled out of bed. It was as if he didn't care enough to put on a nicely ironed shirt and suit and shave. He mentioned how he kept getting nervous and using extra cologne. That could have backfired on him, too.

All I saw of this series was about half an hour last night, so I don't know each person's history, but I couldn't believe he showed up for the finale looking so disheveled.

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#137505 - 12/09/03 07:03 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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I only saw part of the last half hour, but I am willing to bet that the producers had something to do with his appearance. Do you really think the producers don't have something to do with everything that goes on? Some contestants from some of these shows have even said that reaction shots were placed after a particular happening when that is not what happened at all. I am sure they manipulate all of this!
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#137506 - 12/09/03 07:07 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Do you really think the producers don't have something to do with everything that goes on? Some contestants from some of these shows have even said that reaction shots were placed after a particular happening when that is not what happened at all. I am sure they manipulate all of this!


Which makes reality tv no different than 'magazine' news shows such as 20/20, Dateline, 60 Minutes, etc.

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#137507 - 12/09/03 07:11 PM Re: Average Joe gets the Rasberries!!!!
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Or any other program out there. It's all for ratings. I understand that, but don't try to play it off as reality.
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