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#1436343 - 08/30/10 06:54 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
RR Joker
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So...does anyone know exactly WHAT the correction was in the SAFE act version published in the FR Saturday for today? RR Joker, just curious, what website do you use to access the FR on a Saturday for the upcoming Monday?
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#1436349 - 08/30/10 07:01 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
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If you subscribe to the email feed of the federal register TOC, you get Monday's TOC after midnight on Friday. Here is the link: http://listserv.access.gpo.gov/
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#1436532 - 08/30/10 08:55 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
rockchalk02
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Thanks, does the TOC e-mail have working links that let you access a PDF file that is in the 3 column FR format of FR items? I know that when you access the "Tomorrow's Federal Register" information on the FR website, you only get access to the non-FR format of a document.
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#1436603 - 08/30/10 09:22 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
RR Joker
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So have any of the BOL Experts chimed in on any of this?
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#1436658 - 08/31/10 01:13 AM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
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If we do not make any consumer residential mortgage loans, the only dwelling secured loans we do are for investment/business purpose, am I correct in thinking that our LOs would NOT need to be registered? Would I still need policies and procedures? If you work your way through the definitions you will see that this only applies to originators of residential mortgage loans, that are defined as primarily for personal, family, and household use. Commercial loans are not covered and therefore none of the requirements of the rule apply.
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#1436861 - 08/31/10 03:30 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
Kathleen O. Blanchard
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I am going through the act and trying to determine exactly what the employee is required to submit to the registry?
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#1436872 - 08/31/10 03:38 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
ahkcompliance
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It is listed under Employee Information...quite a lengthy list:
•Current name and any other names used •Home address and contact information •Address of the employee's principal business location and business contact information •Social security number •Gender •Date and place of birth •Financial services-related employment history for the 10 years prior to the date of registration or renewal, including the date the employee became an employee of our bank •Convictions of any criminal offense involving dishonesty, breach of trust, or money laundering, or agreements to enter into a pretrial diversion or similar program in connection with the prosecution for such offense, against the employee or organizations controlled by the employee •Civil judicial actions against the employee in connection with financial services-related activities, dismissals with settlements, or judicial findings that the employee violated financial services-related statutes or regulations, except for actions dismissed without a settlement agreement •Actions or orders by a state or federal regulatory agency or foreign financial regulatory authority that: —Found the employee to have made a false statement or omission or been dishonest, unfair or unethical; to have been involved in a violation of a financial services-related regulation or statute; or to have been a cause of a financial services-related business having its authorization to do business denied, suspended, revoked, or restricted —Are entered against the employee in connection with a financial services-related activity —Denied, suspended, or revoked the employee's registration or license to engage in a financial services-related activity; disciplined the employee or otherwise by order prevented the employee from associating with a financial services-related business or restricted the employee's activities —Barred the employee from association with an entity or its officers regulated by the agency or authority or from engaging in a financial services-related business •Final orders issued by a state or federal regulatory agency or foreign financial regulatory authority based on violations of any law or regulation that prohibits fraudulent, manipulative, or deceptive conduct •Revocation or suspension of the employee's authorization to act as an attorney, accountant, or state or federal contractor •Customer-initiated financial services-related arbitration or civil action against the employee that required action, including settlements, or which resulted in a judgment
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#1436882 - 08/31/10 03:44 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
ahkcompliance
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I am going through the act and trying to determine exactly what the employee is required to submit to the registry? And to add to Kaybee's thought - I posted a link to the sample collection form the MU4 somewhere in this thread. I am taking it with me when explaining to staff member's the information that they'll need to start compiling.
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#1436933 - 08/31/10 04:21 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
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I've read that the Action date for the new SAFE Act is October 1, 2010. Would anyone happen to have a sample policy/procedures that they would be willing to share with me? Or know where I may find one? Thanks!!
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#1436989 - 08/31/10 05:26 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
rachelchri
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#1437119 - 08/31/10 07:30 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
Kathleen O. Blanchard
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I am really looking to who needs to be included in the registration. We have two "true" mtg originators, however we have branch mgrs and service reps that will take an app using our online process. Basically just filling it our for them. However, they might ask about rates and they would quote that along with Pts. We are struggling as who to register
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#1437157 - 08/31/10 08:02 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
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I am working on a very short training for the board so they know what the policy they are going to be approve should address. One aspect I know I will be asked about is the liability for noncompliance. I couldn't find anything directly so does that mean that it is the regulatory agencies use of written agreements, C&Ds and CMPs? Thanks for any help.
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#1437172 - 08/31/10 08:22 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
Bobw
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I am really looking to who needs to be included in the registration. We have two "true" mtg originators, however we have branch mgrs and service reps that will take an app using our online process. Basically just filling it our for them. However, they might ask about rates and they would quote that along with Pts. We are struggling as who to register Bobw...I'd say everyone you mentioned above would qualify.
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#1437184 - 08/31/10 08:35 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
RR Joker
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I am really looking to who needs to be included in the registration. We have two "true" mtg originators, however we have branch mgrs and service reps that will take an app using our online process. Basically just filling it our for them. However, they might ask about rates and they would quote that along with Pts. We are struggling as who to register Bobw...I'd say everyone you mentioned above would qualify. I agree with RR joker.
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#1449789 - 09/29/10 06:06 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
Kathleen O. Blanchard
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I'M SO CONFUSED! We're having a huge disagreement about who has to register Test 1 - Taking an application. Employee takes application data (check). Test 2 - Offering a rate. Employee says the rate today is ____%. The rate is the rate is the rate. Section (b)(2) - says it would not include "in response to a consumer's request, informing a consumer of the loan rates that are publicly available such as on a Web Site for specific types of loan products without communicating to the consumer whether qualifications are met for the loan product" The employee says "Thanks, for the app - someone else will be in contact". I see the response to Bobw and it's very similar but folks here say that test 2 is not passed...
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#1449803 - 09/29/10 06:28 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
SnuffytheSeal
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Are those same employees issuing GFEs and/or TILs? Something else to think about....if they are....i think that would make them an MLO.
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#1449863 - 09/29/10 07:38 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
raitchjay
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No they are not. All they are doing is looking at a screen and saying "today's rate is _____".
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#1449889 - 09/29/10 07:56 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
SnuffytheSeal
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Would that be verbally providing a disclosure of loan terms after application even if only the rate approved by the bank's loan approval mechanism function for a specified loan product is communicated without authority to negotiate the rate????
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#1449968 - 09/29/10 09:12 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
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Yes, SkiDoo...that would be correct.
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#1450337 - 09/30/10 06:34 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
SnuffytheSeal
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We are a federal bank that has 3 loan officers. They do not receive "compensation or gain" from loans do we still have to register? They are just paid an annual salary not based on loan production.
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#1450343 - 09/30/10 06:37 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
mstark
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Salary is compensation, so we will be registering our loan officers.
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#1450356 - 09/30/10 06:49 PM
Re: Final SAFE Act published today
Kathleen O. Blanchard
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can you send me the quote or reference point. I was unable to find that information about salary being compensation. Thanks.
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