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#145074 - 01/02/04 06:22 PM Greatest Debut Album Ever
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Greatest Debut Albums Ever--

Have we done this before? If so, let's do it again for 2004. I found one person online who thought it was Mariah Carey's debut album--that is scary!


Here are some suggestions for a newspaper article I found online--

1. The Who, "The Who Sings My Generation" (1965)
This album just explodes, a soulful, frenzied celebration of the healing power of maximum R&B, all slashing power chords and young man blues and chaos masquerading as a drummer. Keith Moon's title as the most exciting drummer rock 'n' roll had ever seen was secure by the time he arrived at the chorus of "Out in the Street," an opening track that lifts its intro from the band's third single, "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere," then leaves that classic choking on its fumes as Moon goes into overdrive, leaving guitarist Pete Townshend with nothing to do but make some chaos of his own on stun-guitar. It's also got those great falsetto harmonies that so defined the early Who. But nothing would define the early Who with quite the impact of "My Generation," a stuttering youth-culture anthem that draws a line in the sand and checks your ID with "I hope I die before I get old." Roger Daltrey's performance is practically dripping with contempt, but it's the energy that really makes it sting. There's nothing quite like energy to separate the young man from the old. And that they had in surplus. Not that every track relies on energy and chaos. "The Kids Are Alright" is a shimmering folk-rock charmer. And no other British invader could have done James Brown the way the Who does James Brown here on "I Don't Mind" and "Please, Please, Please." The most impressive thing about this debut, though, is Townshend's writing. It's light years ahead of the writing you'll find on any other debut by an original British Invader. But unlike those other acts, the Who peaked early.

2. The Ramones, "The Ramones" (1976)
Few bands have had a greater impact on succeeding generations than these blitzkrieg-bopping cartoon-punks from Queens. And everything you need to know to start your own Ramones can be found in the opening seconds of their debut album, the buzz-saw guitar giving way to a pinheaded chant of "Hey! Ho! Let's Go!" The sound of this record is so much a part of the cultural fabric now, it may be hard to hear it for the revolutionary step it took for mankind at the time. But rest assured, no other band had ever sounded quite like this (not even Blink-182). And yet, it was a revolution based in traditional rock 'n' roll values. From their smile-inducing cover of "Let's Dance" (a hit for Chris Montez in 1962) to the girl-group-compatible charm of their own "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend," the Ramones were all about tradition, ringing in the age of punk as B-movie rock 'n' roll cheerleaders, dumbing it down until it couldn't get much dumber. That's what made it so much fun. And therein lies the genius.

3.Little Richard, "Here's Little Richard" (1957)
Among the more pervasive boomer myths is the idea that no pop act made a proper album until the Beatles came along to save the world. I could name at least a dozen albums to disprove this theory, but few make a case as compelling as this electrifying debut from the man who calls himself "the architect of rock 'n' roll." This shockingly consistent effort features many of the songs that now define his legacy, from "Ready Teddy," "Jenny Jenny," "True Fine Mama" and "She's Got It" to the true hits, four Top 40 singles -- "Tutti Frutti," "Long Tall Sally," "Slippin' and Slidin' (Peepin' and Hidin')" and "Rip It Up." For further proof of Richard's genius, go directly to "Can't Believe You Want to Leave," a gospel-flavored track that proves he could have cut it as a soul man in the '60s if he hadn't found religion.
4. The Stooges, "The Stooges" (1969)
Led by Iggy Pop (then Iggy Stooge), a knuckle-dragging visionary with more imitators on the mike than Eddie Vedder, the Stooges rolled out of the gutter in 1969 with a sound more primitive than rock had ever known. At times, the industrial grind is almost hypnotizing. But mostly, it rocks. You'd swear the guitarist was paid by the number of times he used the wah-wah pedal. And when the Stooges went all Spectoresque and threw piano on "I Wanna Be Your Dog," they played the same note through the whole song. Lyrically, this album took the darkness of the Doors and cranked it up a notch. But there was humor, too. On "1969," a song about the promise of "another year with nothin' to do," the singer deadpans, "Now, I'm gonna be 22 / I say, 'Oh my' and, uh, 'boo hoo.' "

5.The Jimi Hendrix Experience, "Are You Experienced?" (1967)
As guitar heroes go, Jimi Hendrix was truly heroic, redefining not only the way a guitar could be played but the way it could sound. And best of all, his psychedelic reinvention of the blues was also insanely accessible. The smash hits here are smash hits for a reason -- from the sexed-up funk of "Foxey Lady" to "Manic Depression." At one point, a voice from the musical wilderness says, "You'll never hear surf music again," which didn't prove to be the case, as fate -- or Quentin Tarantino -- would have it. But it's certainly easy enough to see how Hendrix (and the world) may have felt that way when this amazing invitation to experience arrived just in time for the Summer of Love.

6. Elvis Costello, "My Aim Is True" (1977)
The playing got a whole lot better on the second record, once he'd signed on the Attractions. But there's no mistaking what it was that had the critics foaming at the mouth when this one hit the streets. A newer-than-average Dylan with an attitude to suit the punk-rock times, the man who would be Elvis never met a phrase he couldn't turn. And those phrases were turned in the service of songs that rarely stopped at being clever. The character sketches could be devastating ("Alison," "No Dancing") when he wanted you to sympathize or really funny ("Less Than Zero") when he didn't. But the character he kept returning to was Elvis ("I said 'I'm so happy I could die' / She said 'Drop dead' then left with another guy").

7. The Kinks, "The Kinks" (1964)
You can hear the adrenaline racing through their veins as the British Invasion's most unruly R&B group hydroplanes through "Beautiful Delilah," the opening cut of a debut album that would also yield the single that defined their early sound. "You Really Got Me" is electrifying, a sonic reduction of all the most exciting elements of early rock 'n' roll into an even more exciting sound, a trash-rock thrill that even "Louie Louie" could only suggest. While nothing here -- not even "Stop Your Sobbing" -- suggests that Ray Davies would one day be responsible for many of the most inspired ballads of his generation, that's no reason not to turn it up and re-experience a sound that would inspire everyone from punks to metalheads to Chrissie Hynde.

8. The Beatles, "Please Please Me" (1963)
Most Americans didn't get a chance to meet the Beatles until their American label threw together "Meet the Beatles." But this is the proper debut. And while it doesn't boast as many hits, it does at least as good a job of capturing the charm that made the early Beatles such a pop sensation. The sense of enthusiasm they bring to their favorite American records -- from an awe-inspiring "Twist and Shout" to "Boys," as sung by Ringo -- is contagious. But the song that wins you over in a heartbeat when you bring this album home is the Lennon-McCartney original with which they introduce themselves, "I Saw Her Standing There." It's quintessential early Beatles. And it rocks, the only aspect of the Beatles legacy for which they may be underrated.

9. Bob Marley and the Wailers, "Catch a Fire" (1973)
"Catch a Fire" both defines and transcends reggae as the Wailers catch a fire at Bob Marley's back on "Concrete Jungle," "Stir It Up" and "Midnight Ravers," classics all. The singer preaches peace and love like a Rastaman's Lennon on "No More Trouble," lets his dreads down on the playful "Baby We've Got a Date (Rock It Baby)" and lashes out at his people's oppressors in "Slave Driver," breathing some actual fire as he tells them "the table is turned/ Catch a fire/ You're gonna get burned." And while it's clearly Marley's show, the album also features Peter Tosh's every-bit-as-worthy contributions "Stop That Train" and "400 Years."

10. The Sex Pistols, "Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols" (1977)
This album rocks. There's so much else to focus on -- the Pistols gave good scandal, after all. But it's the way they rock that makes their one true album such a timeless thrill. A lot of people misinterpret what the Pistols did as anti-rock. But that's just nonsense -- bollocks, if you will. The band recycles 20 years of rock 'n' roll excitement here. It's funny, too. Unlike the Clash, the Pistols waged their war against society as class clowns in a cartoon-punk burlesque of nihilistic rage. And they were blessed in that respect to have auditioned one of rock's most hilarious rebels, Johnny Rotten. Never mind the anarchy. Here's the showmanship.

11. The Clash, "The Clash" (1977)
"London Calling" is for rock 'n' rollers. This is the Clash as punks adore them -- young, loud and snotty and tossing a brick at the world outside the windows of their own garage. They want a riot of their own, and you can hear that in the music, which rocks with a youthful abandon and passion and rage and hooks as big as any big ideas that would come to dominate their later albums -- hooks they thrash away at in arrangements that are more sophisticated than they sound. And when they tackle Junior Murvin's reggae hit "Police & Thieves," it couldn't be more clear that while the premise of the movement was that anyone could play, the Clash could play.

12. The Muffs, "The Muffs" (1993)
These songs have better hooks than anything commercial radio or MTV was playing at the time, but the closest the Muffs came to making a splash was, sadly, a Fruitopia commercial -- that would be the one that had the better hook than anything the other fruit-drink companies were using. The sound is essentially punk, but the writing is steeped in classic '60s songcraft marked by Beatlesque arrangements. Add to that a youthful "Hey, I know! Let's start a band!" enthusiasm and a singer, Kim Shattuck, whose voice can range from Ronnie Spector tender to a shriek that sounds like Courtney Love in traffic on her way to see the stylist.

13. The Rolling Stones, "England's Newest Hit Makers" (1964)
Sure, it's mostly covers. But as faithful as the boys can be, they make these songs their own. Go back and listen to the Buddy Holly version of "Not Fade Away." The words and the beat are the same. But the menace of Jagger's performance transforms it. He is gonna tell you how it's gonna be. And you're gonna like it, or else. "Route 66" is rock's definitive "Route 66." Chuck Berry's "Carol" is among their greatest hits. And the swaggering "Little by Little" and "Tell Me" find the Jagger-Richards hit machine in fine form long before they couldn't get no satisfaction.


14. Led Zeppelin, "Led Zeppelin" (1969)
The original blues explosion, Zeppelin didn't waste much time announcing its intentions. The opening riff of "Good Times Bad Times" hit the speakers with a force that redefined the concept of a power chord. And it only got better from there, with Jimmy Page's trash 'n' flash guitar competing for the spotlight with the heavy-metal wail of Robert Plant while the other guys hammered away at the rhythm in a way that was both danceable and heavier than rock had ever been. It's not all heavy, though. The second song begins as understated folk before the thunder hits. And then, of course, you've got "Your Time Is Gonna Come," as majestic a rocker as any in the band's amazing catalog, with organ fit to make you wonder how they got the keys to that cathedral.

15. Ben Folds Five, "Ben Folds Five" (1995)
Ben Folds couldn't help but stand out from the crowd. He played piano in the post-Nirvana '90s, after all. And like a virtuoso. Then, you had the image -- geek whose mood could swing from sensitive to cynical and back again with little warning. Here was a guy who could skewer the underground in a hurtful, hilarious novelty song, then turn around and break your heart while singing to Howard Cosell in the voice of Muhammad Ali. But look beyond the things that made him stand out in the first place, and you're left with a serious talent whose ear for a melody would have made him stand out either way.

16. New York Dolls, "New York Dolls" (1973)
New York City's answer to the Rolling Stones, the Dolls played faster, wore more makeup and, in many ways, anticipated punk as much as Iggy. But the sound and spirit are essentially the Stones without the private jet, to the extent that if you're into "Rip This Joint," there's absolutely nothing here that wouldn't speak directly to you. Johnny Thunders makes the most of every lick Chuck Berry ever played while David Johansen is only as likely as Jagger to go for attitude when notes are too much bother. And the songs are timeless, fueled by killer hooks and lyrics smart enough to cut the bad-boy swagger with a healthy dose of camp.

17. D'Angelo, "Brown Sugar" (1995)
Grooving on a soul foundation laid by everyone from Marvin Gaye to Smokey Robinson (whose "Cruisin' " he covers) to Prince, D'Angelo emerges as the leader of the '90s soul revival and his own man here, his sweet falsetto used to great effect on such infectious new-soul classics as the title cut and the Wonder-ful "When We Get By." The vocals are amazing, but what really makes "Brown Sugar" taste so good is that he's every bit as capable of writing new-soul classics as he is of singing them, from sexy come-ons to a cheating song that ends in "Why the both of you's bleeding so much?" and eventually "Why am I wearing handcuffs?"

18. The dB's, "Stands for Decibels" (1981)
Brainy pop revivalists intent on undermining all their biggest hooks with quirky production and quirkier vocals, these guys never had a prayer of getting over on the public. That would be a shame if everything that doomed this album to its cult-rock status wasn't such a major part of its appeal. You can't blame radio for passing on a song with vocals as potentially annoying as the ones in "Dynamite," but I'd blame anyone who couldn't hear the genius in the better songs here. And by better songs, I'm talking nearly every one, from "Black and White" to "Moving in Your Sleep." The guys in R.E.M. were big supporters, by the way, so send your cards and letters their way.

19. The Cars, "The Cars" (1978)
A New Wave hit machine that wore its art-rock aspirations on its inner sleeve, the Cars' first album let the good times roll in nine refreshing blasts of keyboard-driven power-pop whose secret weapon may have been, surprisingly, a lead guitarist. Then, of course, out front, you had your not-so-secret weapon, Ric Ocasek, who could play neurotic like nobody this side of Anthony Perkins. While those twitchy stalker-next-door vocals didn't stop the hits he sang from being hits (in fact, they may have helped), it clearly didn't hurt to have a guy like Ben Orr in the band to take the wheel on a single as perfect for airplay as "Just What I Needed."

20. The Pretenders, "Pretenders" (1980)
With a voice that pretty much defines the art of cool detachment, Chrissie Hynde escapes the wrath of tattooed love boys as she rewrites Alice Cooper's "Only Women Bleed" from a woman's perspective. As she sings, she'll never feel like a man in a man's world. Nails have rarely been as tough as Miss Ohio on rock songs as over-the-top as "Precious," but she's even better when she lets her guard down and reminds us that there is a heart beneath the scabs inside that leather jacket -- on "Kid," in particular. And while it may be Chrissie's show, the blokes she found in England are just punk enough to paint outside the quickly forming punk-rock lines, as brilliant on the tender moments as they are when rocking out.

21. Funkadelic, "Funkadelic" (1970)
"If you will suck my soul, I will lick your funky emotions." And so it begins (with extra echo on the tongue) -- a psychedelic raw-funk odyssey that takes off asking "Mommy, What's a Funkadelic?" answers that with funk to spare, then brings your journey to an end with "What Is Soul." The way George Clinton sees it, feels it, lives it, heavy-breathes it, soul is both a ham hock in your corn flakes and the ring around your bathtub. Fair enough. But the groove is as good as the humor, Eddie Hazel's lead guitar is genius, and the vocals make it sound as if they're tripping in the Psychedelic Shack with the Temptations. "Can you feel that, baby? It's called Funka-delic music. It will blow your funky mind." And if it doesn't, well, you may be suffering from a mind that can't be blown.

22. Elastica, "Elastica" (1995)
Sure, the hit is as blatant a steal as anything this side of all those Eddie Vedder knockoffs in heavy rotation as you read this. But how many people who heard "Connection" on the radio could even tell you what the Wire song they're cribbing is. I'd wager half a dozen. Or possibly seven. Either way, it's no big deal. What Elastica did was nothing more or less than carry on the rock 'n' roll tradition of wearing all your coolest records on your sleeve. And as the Strokes can tell you, sometimes sounding cool can be its own reward. With Justine Frischmann pushing sassy to a new high on the mike, this album stands as the ultimate triumph of style over substance.

23. Chuck Berry, "After School Session" (1958)
Before Bob Dylan came along, Chuck Berry was the poet laureate of American rock 'n' roll. An amazing guitar hero, too. You can hear both sides of Berry's legend on his first release, from the humor with which he addresses the "botheration" of the working-class experience in "Too Much Monkey Business" to "Havana Moon," a comic narrative about what happens when you're waiting on your ship to come in with a jug of rum to keep you company. On "Brown Eyed Handsome Man," he even sneaks a black-pride anthem in under the white man's radar with a simple substitution. Had the label simply thought to substitute some early singles ("Maybellene," "Rock 'n' Roll Music," etc.) for a couple of the instrumentals here, this album would have ranked a whole lot higher. As it stands, it's merely classic.

24. Run-D.M.C., "Run-D.M.C." (1984)
On point for the future shock, this album was street when being street did not require calling everyone in sight an n-word. But these rappers keep it plenty real (while finishing each other's sentences). This album rocks with conscience, from the warning of hard times "spreading just like the flu" to "Wake Up," a utopian dream from which they wake up with a vision of the world "working as a team." You'll also find their breakthrough hit, "It's Like That," in addition to the Funkadelicized guitar of "Rock Box," while Jam Master Jay, their DJ, earns the hype they throw his way on two cuts dedicated to telling the world how great he is, scratching his fingers right into the history books.

25. The B-52's, "The B-52's" (1979)
Shortly before he was murdered, John Lennon was raving about this New Wave party band as proof that the world had finally caught up to Yoko. There's certainly plenty of Yoko in the quirky vocal stylings of the thrift-store chicks in beehive wigs, but The B-52's have degrees from a campier school of art -- a surf-guitar, B-movie school. The sound is both ridiculously catchy and deceptively original; the words, hilarious. "There's a moon in the sky/It's called the moon." "Why don't you dance with me?! I'm not no limburger!" And "Rock Lobster," the single that made them an overnight legend. If this record doesn't make you smile, your smile is more than likely broken.


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#145075 - 01/02/04 07:57 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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That is a pretty good list--my top 10 would be (in no particular order):

Elvis Costello--My Aim Is True
Boston--Boston
The Cars--The Cars
Boz Scaggs-Boz Scaggs (very bluesy/folksy with Duane Allman on guitar--not what you are used for from Mr. Scaggs)
Joe Jackson--Look Sharp
The Pretenders--The Pretenders
The Who--The Who Sings My Generation
Los Lobos--Will the Wolf Survive
The Bangles--All Over the Place

There are a few others, but I will limit it to artists you may have heard of and not list Peter Case, Aztec Camera, and Lloyd Cole.
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#145076 - 01/02/04 08:14 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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14. Led Zeppelin, "Led Zeppelin" (1969)

Can't argue with that one, except it would be my #1.
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#145077 - 01/02/04 08:55 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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"Zeplin" Didn't these guys play under another name?
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#145078 - 01/02/04 09:10 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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"Zeplin" Didn't these guys play under another name?



Sort of, you have some of them in Cream, and some of them in the Yardbirds. They played under the name "The New Yardbirds" briefly. Is that what you where thinking?
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I know it's not a classic yet and it's newer but Live's "Throwing Copper" is awesome and rocks!

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#145080 - 01/02/04 09:18 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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I know it's not a classic yet and it's newer but Live's "Throwing Copper" is awesome and rocks!


I couldn't agree more! However, Live's debut album was Mental Jewelry, so I don't think we can include Throwing Copper on this list.

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Jac: you're right!!! I forgot about that one but Throwin' Copper in my opinion is one of my greatest but wrong thread!

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#145082 - 01/02/04 09:30 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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Zeppelin originally was known as "The New Yardbirds", were they not?

I think, all-in-all, that's a really weak list. It didn't even have The Doors, and their debut was an amazing album. Other honorable mentions: _Johnny Cash and His Hot & Blue Guitar_, or could I count _Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs_?

Really, I'm not sure that much released prior to the mid-60's could count as an "album" - I'm disqualifying Chuck Berry, Little Richard, possibly The Beatles, and maybe even my own Johnny Cash entry...

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That is what I was thinking. Would debut album be accurite then?
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Omega, are you referring to my post or jokerman's?

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#145085 - 01/02/04 09:47 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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Sure, Zeppelin's album is a debut unless you can name me a "New Yardbirds" album. There isn't one, is there?

I think the idea is a debut album by a group that actually recorded more than one album. Layla would not qualify, would it?

The Doors is great pick also, but I'd hesitate to say this 25 album list is "weak." Though I am not sure about a D'Angelo (never heard it), Elastica (an o.k., but not great album), Run DMC (groundbreaking, yes--but best debut, I don't think so), B-52s (yes, a fun album, but it does not make my list).

What about Foreignor's first album with "Feels Like the First Time" "Cold as Ice" "Head Knocker" etc.... It sure got a lot of time on my turntable.
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#145086 - 01/02/04 09:50 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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Sure, Zeppelin's album is a debut unless you can name me a "New Yardbirds" album. There isn't one.




LOL Nope, there sure isn't.

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What about Foreignor's first album with "Feels Like the First Time" "Cold as Ice" "Head Knocker" etc.... It sure got a lot of time on my turntable.




Mine too, I still have that album, and just recently found it on CD.
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Of course some would name Van Halen's first album. Some might say REM--Murmur [not a debut? It followed an EP called Chronic Town), U2--Boy, The Band--Music From Big Pink (forgot about this when making my list); Van Morrison--Astral Weeks.

I guess a true debut would not have established artists in pivotal roles. That would disqualify Van Morrison and Led Zep for sure.
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I get so confused when work interupts my posting! Yardbirds / Zeplin. I was mistaken. I thought the Yardbirds not the New Yardbirds were the Zeplin.
I used to play Foreigner. I don't why. It would not be included in my list - maybe my Please don't play B-17 list. Too much bublegum. (I used to play Styx too but I am not running out to buy the CD. I haven't always had good taste- oooh sorry about that )
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#145089 - 01/02/04 10:19 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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I get so confused when work interupts my posting! Yardbirds / Zeplin. I was mistaken. I thought the Yardbirds not the New Yardbirds were the Zeplin.
I used to play Foreigner. I don't why. It would not be included in my list - maybe my Please don't play B-17 list. Too much bublegum. (I used to play Styx too but I am not running out to buy the CD. I haven't always had good taste- oooh sorry about that )





You are probably right--best debut probably would not be a list of which debut you liked at the time, but which as stood the test of time and maturity. Foreignor is still listenable, but not a best. Even at the time, it was not wall-to-wall full of great songs.

Unfortunately, by 2003 a great album has become one that is only 50% filler rather than the usual 90%.
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Pedaling along a scenic highwa...
"Standing in the rain, with his head hung low, couldn't get a ticket, it was a sold out show. Heard the roar of the crowd, he could picture the scene, put his ear to the wall, and like a distant scream. He heard one guitar......"

Foreigner 4
Good album (debut? not sure, but Foreigner was mentioned and I couldn't help myself!!)

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"Standing in the rain, with his head hung low, couldn't get a ticket, it was a sold out show. Heard the roar of the crowd, he could picture the scene, put his ear to the wall, and like a distant scream. He heard one guitar......"

Foreigner 4
Good album (debut? not sure, but Foreigner was mentioned and I couldn't help myself!!)




It was their, uh, 4th album.
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(bowing down to Zaibatsu) Ahhhh, mighty fountain of knowledge. that makes sense, of course, but isn't "Cold as Ice" on that album as well? It seems to me that it is. Still couldn't help myself, though. "Jukebox Hero" is just a cool song!!

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How about Cheap Trick? Taboo subjects, off-kilter humor, bizarre subjects, power pop, plenty of hooks, sheer volume, and gut-wrenching rock & roll. More musically accomplished than punk, but the same in a way. A defining album of its era and one of the most influential of its time.
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#145094 - 01/02/04 10:33 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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(bowing down to Zaibatsu) Ahhhh, mighty fountain of knowledge. that makes sense, of course, but isn't "Cold as Ice" on that album as well? It seems to me that it is. Still couldn't help myself, though. "Jukebox Hero" is just a cool song!!




Nope, Cold as Ice was not on there. But Junior Walker's sax on "Urgent" was about the coolest rock'n'roll made at its time!!!
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#145095 - 01/02/04 10:34 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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I'm with Omega on Foreigner. I used to watch a lot of _MacGyver_, but that doesn't make Richard Dean Anderson = Andy Griffith!

Why would a "debut" album have to be from a group with more than one? I wasn't sure about counting _Layla..._ because DATD wasn't a "new" group. It would be like counting The Traveling Wilburys.

And to clarify, my characterization of the list as "weak" was not a reflection on the groups/artists, just the albums listed. Some are more a collection of singles than they are an actual album.

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#145096 - 01/02/04 10:35 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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It was their, uh, 4th album.




LOL (Sorry)
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#145097 - 01/02/04 11:00 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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(bowing down to Zaibatsu) Ahhhh, mighty fountain of knowledge. that makes sense, of course, but isn't "Cold as Ice" on that album as well? It seems to me that it is. Still couldn't help myself, though. "Jukebox Hero" is just a cool song!!




Nope, Cold as Ice was not on there. But Junior Walker's sax on "Urgent" was about the coolest rock'n'roll made at its time!!!




You took the words out of my mouth.
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#145098 - 01/02/04 11:06 PM Re: Greatest Debut Album Ever
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We need to redefine "great". It is my opinion that John Lennon is / will be considered one of the greatest composers of the 20th century. His music will be mentioned in the same breath as Fanfair for the Common Man. His name will be right there with Duke Ellington.

"Great" transends both time and style.
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