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#149436 - 01/13/04 07:28 PM Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."

Just tell me, how many of you have come across SENIOR MGMT saying, "because we've always done it that way"!? EVEN WHEN THEY ARE NOT RIGHT!!!!!

I am so ticked right now I could spit nails! UGH!
Thanks, I feel better now!

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#149437 - 01/13/04 07:39 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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How about the response, "Well, we've always done it wrong, then."
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#149438 - 01/13/04 08:10 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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"because we've always done it that way"!?




My favorite is, "well, the examiners didn't say anything during the last exam. . ."

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#149439 - 01/13/04 08:14 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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[quoteMy favorite is, "well, the examiners didn't say anything during the last exam. . ."



This is the one that makes me want to spit nails! Ugh!

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#149440 - 01/13/04 08:22 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I am so ticked right now I could spit nails! UGH!




You know, spitting nails could be a very useful skill, especially when you consider that you are mad at management...
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#149441 - 01/13/04 08:24 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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LOL Dawgfan, that was funny.
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#149442 - 01/13/04 08:29 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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The fact that we didn't get caught being stupid doesn’t justify continuing to be stupid

(My response last time I heard the examiner line!)
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#149443 - 01/13/04 09:20 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I'll write that one down, Dawnie. (For recollection, not in a report.)

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#149444 - 01/13/04 09:48 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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Actually, I've heard this expression more often from employees than from management. Resistance to change is not the exclusionary province of management and the directorate.
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#149445 - 01/13/04 09:50 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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Resistance to change is not the exclusionary province of management and the directorate.




No, it's just more effective from there!!!

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#149446 - 01/13/04 10:06 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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LOL Joker! So true!!!
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#149447 - 01/13/04 10:11 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I actually hear this more often in the non-profit world than in banking. Sadly.
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#149448 - 01/13/04 10:27 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I tend to get "we never did it that way at any of the other banks I worked at".
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#149449 - 01/13/04 10:35 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I am SOOO careful not to say "This is the way we did it at so and so bank" even when I know that way is probably far better than the way we're doing it.

I just never like to see the eyes start rolling....
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#149450 - 01/13/04 11:02 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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My favorite is, "well, the examiners didn't say anything during the last exam. . ."




Isn't that kind of like going to the doctor, having him look at your ears, nose and throat, and then saying, "I don't need to worry about that growth on my torso, the doctor didn't say anything about it when I saw him last."
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#149451 - 01/13/04 11:19 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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Yeah, and I especially love it when that quote comes two minutes after management's statement that the exam team didn't know what they were looking at!

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#149452 - 01/14/04 12:05 AM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I used to deal with a lending manager who always took the approach that the risk of getting in trouble for non-compliance was so small that we just didn't even have to worry about it.

He'd often ask me, "Have you ever heard of a case where this type of thing ended up in court?" or something along those lines. My answer (unless I did know of a case) was always to look him straight in the eye and say "no". No argument, no justification. My point was, I don't, but that's not relevant.

Once we were having a big meeting with people from all over the bank shortly after 9/11 to talk about the need to check OFAC, and he asked in his "you are being so ridiculous" tone, how likely we were to have someone from Al Qada come in to open a deposit account. Again, my response was "pretty unlikely." When I refused to argue the point, or justify my stance, he often dropped it.

I always thought saying "We've never had a problem with it before" was like saying "My house has never been on fire, so why do I need insurance?"
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#149453 - 01/14/04 02:52 AM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I always thought saying "We've never had a problem with it before" was like saying "My house has never been on fire, so why do I need insurance?"




I like that!
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#149454 - 01/14/04 01:00 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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Great Blue hinted at a good solution for those resistant to changes. Make them the OFAC Compliance Officer.
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#149455 - 01/14/04 02:51 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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Great Blue hinted at a good solution for those resistant to changes. Make them the OFAC Compliance Officer.




I thought you were going to say "Set their house on fire."
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#149456 - 01/14/04 03:20 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I'm going to change the rant if you don't mind. I'm performing the end of year HMDA verification. Now mind you, I've been here almost 2 years. Of the first 3 loans I've reviewed, two contained errors. I'm so furious. I've trained and last year the loan operations people had to go back and re-verify all of the loans due to errors. It looks as though these people aren't held accountable for the errors and no one cares but me.

Sorry - rant over - for now.
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#149457 - 01/15/04 06:49 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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My favorite is "show me where it says I can't" for instance, whiting out terms on a note

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#149458 - 01/15/04 06:49 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I had someone today ask to see something in writing. Sometimes it can be difficult to find. This wasn't.
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#149459 - 01/15/04 07:42 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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My favorite is "show me where it says I can't" for instance, whiting out terms on a note




We wrote up a branch for using white out on documentation. They told us, "It came over the fax machine like that."

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#149460 - 01/15/04 07:44 PM Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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I had someone today ask to see something in writing. Sometimes it can be difficult to find. This wasn't.




We have actually been accused of having a different set of procedures than the rest of the bank.

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