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#149461 - 01/15/04 08:40 PM
Re: Rant-"that's the way we always did it..."
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Oh yes, yes, yes! In my life as an auditor and compliance officer I have heard them all. My favorite one so far is one I heard recently from a newly appointed supervisor, "Well, we've always done it that way, therefore, it must be the right way to do it." This was even after I explained all reasons why the procedure was incorrect and mighty risky to the bank. Egos..?!?!?!? This is what makes my job fun, because it gives me soemthing else to put in my daily journal under "a funny thing happened on the way to......." 
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#149462 - 01/16/04 03:34 PM
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In my life as an auditor and compliance officer I have heard them all. . . This is what makes my job fun
I agree - after flowcharting a credit card department, the Director wanted to copy all the charts to use as departmental documentation. He decided against it when we pointed out to him that the clerk in the back office literally had more authority than he did because of lack of controls.
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#149463 - 01/16/04 07:44 PM
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#149464 - 01/16/04 07:46 PM
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I have been dealing with a Manager just this week over an audit recommendation, and what is really agrevating is that out of all of the findings, this is the one that was the easiest, least expensive fix! And they want to argue!!! How about this response: "Getting customers to sign contracts now, when we have never had them before, creates more risk than not having them at all. (  ....come again??) Both of these companies have been customers for many years and we have not had any problems. ( Thank Goodness! Since you never thought to get a contract signed.....  ) Furthermore, they are good customers and I trust them." So I just had to ask...."I see you just made a loan to this one...And you had them sign all of these documents because...?" Actually I said...Here's my report...provide your response in writing, then when Sr. Mgmt and Audit Committee approve "or not"....it's done! See ya next time around! 
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#149465 - 01/16/04 08:13 PM
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#149469 - 02/11/04 03:06 PM
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I would guess that the regulations have changed quite a bit since he left, which you are obviously aware of. It doesn't seem as though he is. Don't let him get to you. One day it will all work out.
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#149470 - 02/11/04 04:06 PM
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You can try something like "It's what you learn after you know it all that counts", or you can hang this picture on his office door. KIA
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#149472 - 02/12/04 05:11 PM
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In my opinion, you should stay out of old "ex-examiner's" way whenever possible. Sooner or later, he's going to step in it big time, and then you won't have to worry about him anymore.
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#149474 - 02/12/04 05:40 PM
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My favorite is "show me where it says I can't" for instance, whiting out terms on a note
You could say:"Show me where it says you can".
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#149476 - 02/12/04 08:39 PM
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His personality is one of "stand in my way and I'll run over you". 
If he wants something,regardless of what it is, if you don't step aside, he will run right through you until he gets it....whether you are the Headteller or the bank President. (He has connections with the board). He throws "ex-examiner" around any chance he gets. (Being in compliance it is usually around me.) He also uses the statement that at so and so bank, "which I helped to sell" the compliance officer was a real stickler, and "he never made us do that". I have not been able to come up with a response for those statements, but one day.................... 
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