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#151321 - 01/20/04 10:28 PM
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Here's how I feel about the Pats' experience. Two years ago, the Pats were the underdogs. Now, the Panthers are the underdogs. I firmly believe that the Pats understand the mindset that the Panthers will have going into this game. That will result in a more focused Pats team.
The other thing is this. It's not like the Panthers don't have people with Super Bowl experience. The head man, John Fox, was defensive coordinator for the Giants in their 2001 appearance.
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#151322 - 01/20/04 11:29 PM
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Could anything be worse than living in New England during some of the coldest days on record...yep..living in New England and NOT being a Pats fan! Go Panthers!
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#151324 - 01/21/04 02:23 PM
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Now look at whose not giving respect.....contrary to Mgic Banker's beliefs, these two teams are pretty evenly matched. It really could go either way with the only surprise being a blowout by either one.
Point taken. The Patriots really have not blown anyone out this year, so no reason to think this game will be any different. The Panthers do have a good team and have made all the parts work together very well.
Go Patriots!
BTW, I am still picking the Pats. Go AFC!!
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#151325 - 01/22/04 12:41 AM
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The Panthers played very physical ball. They had determination and desire. Not that Philly didn't want to win, but the Panthers wanted it more. The Pats need to be prepared.
On a lighter note:
A guy named Bob receives a free ticket to the Super Bowl from his company. Unfortunately, when Bob arrives at the stadium he realizes the seat is in the last row in the corner of the stadium - he's closer to the Goodyear blimp than the field.
About halfway through the first quarter, Bob notices an empty seat 10 rows off the field, right on the 50 yard line. He decides to take a chance and makes his way through the stadium and around the security guards to the empty seat.
As he sits down, he asks the gentleman sitting next to him, "Excuse me, is anyone sitting here?" The man says no.
Now, very excited to be in such a great seat for the game, Bob again inquires of the man next to him, "This is incredible! Who in their right mind would have a seat like this at the Super Bowl and not use it?"
The man replies, "Well, actually, the seat belongs to me, I was supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first Super Bowl we haven't been at together since we got married in 1967."
"Well, that's really sad," says Bob, "but still, couldn't you find someone to take the seat? A relative or close friend?"
"No," the man replies, "they're all at the funeral.
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#151326 - 01/22/04 12:59 AM
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Some notable quotes:
From John Fox after today's team practice:
On what he told the players to expect at the Super Bowl:
The further you go, the bigger the game gets on the outside. The game is going to be answered inside that team room on both sides and not to get caught up in it. Whoever executes well is going to win. It is a business trip. It is an away game in Houston. There will be plenty of time to celebrate after the Super Bowl.
On treating the Super Bowl just like any other game:
It is a football game. It is for the world championship. It is a big game. We played a big game last week. We played a big game the week before that. If you lose at this point, it is over. There is only going to be one winner, so you want to make sure all of your focus is not on all this (media) but on all that (game).
From Brentson Buckner who has been there before - Super Bowl XXX:
"I learned that I'm not going to the Super Bowl. I am the Super Bowl," said Buckner. "By that, I mean that I'm not part of the 'in' crowd. My first time, I wanted to go to all the parties. I wanted to meet people. This is the Super Bowl. That's what you hear about.
"But you have to realize that you can't be a fan. You've got a game to play. You're the reason people are coming there. That's what I have expressed to the guys who haven't been there. You're not there for the parties. You're there to win the game and win. When you win, you can go to all the parties you want to after that."
A quote from me:
"I believe in miracles - Go Panthers! "
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#151330 - 01/22/04 02:26 PM
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The Super Bowl on the other hand.... Does anyone really remember (without looking it up) who played in Super Bowl XIX or let's make it easier--how about Super Bowl X or Super Bowl XXIV? No, that's because these numbers are useless. They should just call it Super Bowl 2004. But I guess that does not sound as good when that overdramatic voiceover announcer reads the intro to the highlights video.
I have to tell you guys that my when my husband was the auditor for a resort hotel for 10 years, there is a GOOD reason that they called him Nit-Pick!!! He could tell you, with no reference material whatsoever, who played in each of those games, who won, probably who the MVP was, and ton and tons of other "useless" info. I swear, if anyone knows where he can put his football knowledge to use, please let me know.....Sorry for the semi-rant, it just kills me to listen to him tell these stats to people, and wonder why he doesn't remember to take out the trash.... 
Then again, he couldn't tell you who Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones, and John Bonham are, but he's heard of Zeppelin.... I guess there are 2 of us in the house with a head for "useless info"!!!!
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#151332 - 01/22/04 02:48 PM
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they are still meaningless and pretentious.
Pretentious, perhaps. But no more so than Rocky, or Led Zeppelin! 
The Roman numerals on Rocky or Led Zep meaningless?
I didn't say that the Roman numerals were meaningless - you did! I said they perhaps were pretentious.
I disagreed with your original post in calling it meaningless. To co-opt your argument - how would you like discussing the Super Bowl MVP with someone only to realize you meant Super Bowl XXIV MVP Joe Montana while your friend meant Super Bowl XXXIII MVP John Elway?!
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#151335 - 01/28/04 03:07 PM
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Ok, this is a site I like to go to for college predictions. Not sure of their track record on the pros, but they make several good points about both teams in this prediction. Super Bowl Prediction As far as my prediction is concerned, I am not going to make one. I will probably pull for the Panthers, because they are the local team, but if the Pats win, I won't be crying. Both teams have played hard and have earned the right to be in the game. Both teams have great defensive units, but I think most everyone agrees that Belichick is the defensive master in this game. His team has pitched two or three shutouts this year, and I think that he is going to put it on the Panthers defensively. Of course, if the Panthers are leading in the fourth quarter, I think they win the game. The reason I say that is that the Panthers have the edge in the running game. They have an inside runner and an outside runner in their backfield, so if it comes to a point where Carolina has a lead and goes into ball control offense, I think they will be able to run out the clock. Their defense, though, has to stay strong through four quarters. Against the Eagles, they had about a five minut period where things began to look a little weak. They can't afford to do that here. I think the game comes down to one or two plays. A turnover, a dropped pass, something. Someone will take a two second mental vacation and that will be it. The only question is, who will it be?
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#151336 - 01/28/04 03:27 PM
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I think the game comes down to one or two plays. A turnover, a dropped pass, something.
A missed field goal.
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#151337 - 01/28/04 03:34 PM
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DawgFan, I like the prediction at your link.
Everyone discounts New England's running game, but Antowain Smith had 100 yards rushing against Indianapolis. New England runs enough to keep other defenses honest. That's not the strength of their offense, but it is not an insurmountable weakness either.
Everyone is also talking about the kind of rushing game Stephen Davis is going to have. Keep in mind that New England has played some of the top running backs in the league this season. The list includes Ricky Davis (twice), Edgerrin James (twice), Duce McAlister, Eddie George (twice), Curtis Martin, and Clinton Portis. Only Portis rushed for over 100 yards against the Patriots, and that was due in part to the fact that both Ted Washington and Richard Seymour, two key factors in the Patriots rush defense, missed that game with injuries. I don't expect Davis to fare much better than these other guys. Which then forces Jake Delhomme to go to the air where he is a lot less comfortable (remember he only threw 14 times against Philly) and more prone to a mistake given the Pats outstanding secondary. I think this will create turnovers and will be the single biggest key to the game.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot.... Go Patriots!
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#151338 - 01/28/04 03:58 PM
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Delhomme may have to go to the air, but remember the other thing about the Panthers running game. It's two headed. Clearly Stephen Davis is the biggest rushing threat, but Foster is not a slouch. That gives the Panthers the opportunity to change the pace and the look of their running game. I agree, with you though, Magic. The last thing the Panthers need to do is tell Delhomme to win the game for them. Delhomme is not Manning or McNair, but then again, some of the Super Bowl winners at QB over the past few years include guys like Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. By the way, Jac, a missed field goal is highly probable. I think Kasay is the more likely of the two to miss a field goal, but Vinateri may not know what to do with no snow on the ground. 
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#151339 - 01/28/04 04:05 PM
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By the way, Jac, a missed field goal is highly probable. I think Kasay is the more likely of the two to miss a field goal, but Vinateri may not know what to do with no snow on the ground.
I agree. Overall, I expect the game to be more of a kickers' battle than anything else. Good defense on both sides will amount to turnovers (and good field position,) but few touchdowns. I expect Carolina to win the touchdown war, because of their edge in the running game, but the Patriots will still come out on top with superior kicking.
My Prediction:
New England: 19
Carolina: 17
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A regret letter thanks you for your support of the Panthers, but informs you that unfortunately your name was not drawn from the lottery of PSLs. Guess I'll keep entering that contest on AOL. 
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