Skip to content
BOL Conferences
Thread Options
#1579597 - 07/18/11 09:48 PM Notices Sent
crazylady Offline
100 Club
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 108
THe sceniro: We have a husband and wife applying for a loan. The wife's credit score causes us not to make the loan, the husband's credit is good but we won't do the loan because of the wife's credit.....We send separate AAN, the wife's includes her score and reasons why we can't do the loan,....the husband's has...."because your wife's credit wasn't good enough?"
I know I'm simplifing this, but what are other people putting on the AAN for the husband?

Return to Top
#1579616 - 07/18/11 10:39 PM Re: Notices Sent crazylady
jim mathews Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 52
Brighton Co
On his I would just say that the wife does not qualify for credit.

Return to Top
#1579638 - 07/19/11 02:40 AM Re: Notices Sent jim mathews
Kathleen O. Blanchard Offline

10K Club
Kathleen O. Blanchard
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 21,293
Also, I would refer to her as "co-applicant", not "your wife".
_________________________
Kathleen O. Blanchard, CRCM "Kaybee"
HMDA/CRA Training/Consulting/Mapping
The HMDA Academy
www.kaybeescomplianceinsights.com

Return to Top
#1579647 - 07/19/11 06:29 AM Re: Notices Sent Kathleen O. Blanchard
rlcarey Offline
10K Club
rlcarey
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 83,393
Galveston, TX
Saying that the co-applicant doesn't qualify does not meet the specificity requirements of Regulation B. It would be like saying "you don't meet our underwriting requirements". From a Regulation B perspective, there is only one credit application and the AAN has to tell them both why, either in one or two AANs. While there is some concern in sharing credit scores, the commentary to the 2003 amendments clarified, there is no privacy concerns regarding sharing the reasons for denial.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com

Return to Top
#1579762 - 07/19/11 03:10 PM Re: Notices Sent rlcarey
ImGoinNuts Offline
100 Club
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 166
We complete the AA for both of them with the reasons specified for the denial, and each receives their own credit score. If the husband calls to question, we would inform him the co-applicant did not qualify, but would not disclose score or any other information from the credit report. He can discuss that with the co-applicant smile
_________________________
CRCM

Views expressed are my own and not those of my employer.

Return to Top
#1580190 - 07/20/11 01:20 PM Re: Notices Sent ImGoinNuts
crazylady Offline
100 Club
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 108
So "Alwayscomliant", you are saying you give an AAN for each person with their own score on it and both have the same denial reasons? OR one AAN with the same denial reasons and both their scores listed on one AAN?

rlcarey, would it be sufficient to send a separate AAN's with the husband's saying, "the joint applicant failed to achieve a qualifying score on the creditor's credit scoring system."

Return to Top
#1580218 - 07/20/11 02:08 PM Re: Notices Sent crazylady
Dan Persfull Offline
10K Club
Dan Persfull
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 47,532
Bloomington, IN
I'm not Randy but the answer is absolutely not. You have to give the reasons why they didn't meet the qualifying score.

From the Reg B 2003 revisions that became mandatory in 2004 that Randy keeps referring to:

9(b) Form of ECOA notice and statement of specific reasons
9(b)(2) Statement of specific reasons

Section 202.9(b)(2), adopted as proposed, clarifies that whether a creditor’s denial of credit is based on the creditworthiness of the applicant, a joint applicant, or guarantor, the reasons for adverse action must be specific. For example, a general statement that “the guarantor did not meet the creditor’s standards of creditworthiness” is insufficient.

The legislative history of the requirement to provide specific reasons for adverse action indicates that the purposes of the disclosure are to help achieve the antidiscrimination goals of the ECOA and to educate and inform consumers. These dual purposes are served by the clarification in § 202.9(b)(2). For example, the disclosure may discourage a creditor from discriminating based on a co-applicant’s or guarantor’s race, sex, age, or other prohibited basis. Also, the disclosure may help educate and inform applicants, co-applicants, or guarantors as to reasons for denial that are not apparent from looking at their credit report.

Many commenters were concerned about the co-applicant’s or guarantor’s privacy when the reasons for adverse action pertaining to creditworthiness are given to the primary applicant. When a person agrees to be a co-applicant, guarantor, or similar party, however, there is (or should be) a general understanding that information will be shared. Accordingly, the rule has been adopted as proposed.
_________________________
The opinions expressed are mine and they are not to be taken as legal advice.

Return to Top