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#1582098 - 07/22/11 07:47 PM Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements
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If we have a blanket lien that includes leasehold improvements (but not the building, as it is leased), would the loan be subject to flood insurance requirements? I have read some definitions that define leasehold improvements as real property.

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#1582541 - 07/25/11 05:04 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements w2k
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What are the leasehold improvements?
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#1582552 - 07/25/11 05:11 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements David Dickinson
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If you have leasehold improvements as collateral, I'm not sure how you would have the land underneath them?????
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#1582690 - 07/25/11 07:57 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements rlcarey
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It's for a lending product under investigation - the leasehold improvements could include anything from cubicles to drywall, carpeting, etc. Some leasehold improvements seem to fit the definition of real property (at least for tax purposes), so I wanted to make sure a blanket lien on such items wouldn't fit the definition of a "loan secured by improved real estate" even though the land is not owned by the borrower.

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#1582731 - 07/25/11 08:29 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements w2k
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I don't believe you need to comply with the flood insurance requirements unless you have a security interest in a walled and roofed structure. Doesn't sound like you have that.
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#1582819 - 07/26/11 02:11 AM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements David Dickinson
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It's for a lending product under investigation .......

If you have ever tried to foreclose on a leasehold improvement, your investigation would be already over if that is going to be your only collateral.............

By the way, cubicles are not leasehold improvements - they are movable....
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#1583146 - 07/26/11 04:56 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements rlcarey
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Thank you.

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#1584558 - 07/28/11 04:20 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements w2k
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Does anyone know if a grain bin / dryer combo on a cement slab would be considered leasehold improvement? Our situation is the borrower owns this big section of land but leases a portion of it to a company that placed the grain bin / dryer structure on it. The grain bin structure is in the flood zone. We're trying to take the whole section of land and not have to exclude the part that's leased. We only want a mortgage, no UCC for anything else. Our borrower isn't the owner of the structure. I don't see how the borrower would have an insurable interest and I don't think we should need flood insurance. Anyone?
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#1584597 - 07/28/11 04:32 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements sammylou
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A grin bin is a "building" and is insurable.
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#1584636 - 07/28/11 05:19 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements David Dickinson
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I agree it's a building; my question is if the borrower doesn't own it and he leases the property someone else who does, does our borrower have an insurable interest? He has no ownership of the "building."
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#1584676 - 07/28/11 05:57 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements sammylou
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If you foreclose on the property, do you have the grin bin as collateral? If not, you don't have a covered loan. If so, you need to comply with the FI requirements.
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#1584691 - 07/28/11 06:11 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements David Dickinson
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Thank you.
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#1957470 - 08/27/14 06:19 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements w2k
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We have a similar situation in which we have a leasehold mortgage on the items inside a building but do not have a lien on the actual building (or the dirt) because our borrowers just lease it. Can someone give me specific guidance to point towards why we do/don't have to require flood insurance on the building?

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#1957530 - 08/27/14 07:40 PM Re: Flood ins requirements for leasehold improvements w2k
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If you don't have a building as collateral, you don't have a "covered loan". Flood insurance doesn't apply. See Interagency FAQ #39.
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