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#1593719 - 08/18/11 05:33 PM Re: SAR Committee????? DebL
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I am wondering this too. Furthermore, I do not like the committee approach to make filing decisions because too often there are folks on the committee that have an interest in not reporting. Group dynamics (group think) will come into play, which could have a negative effect on the process.
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#1593835 - 08/18/11 06:48 PM Re: SAR Committee????? Polo
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Originally Posted By: Diputs
It’s me again…

Our SAR Committee chairman (legal counsel) is arguing with me relative to filing based on a customer’s inconsistent statement.
Here’s an example of the situation.

Customer #1 tells bank employee that they do not want their cash transactions to be tied back to them and commences to conduct a cash withdrawal from their account and physically hands the money to another person that is there with them. That person #2 immediately deposits the cash into their account at the same bank bank. When customer #2 is asked by bank employee what they were doing, customer #2 says they borrowed the money and was going to pay customer #1 back. Later, (after monitoring the account activities, it was discovered that customer #2 subsequently began making internet purchases of art and antiques for the first (#1) person, shortly after the deposit.
Further deposits and internet purchased continues. Finally, bank employee asks customer #2 what they were doing. Customer #2 say the Customer #1 is addicted to internet art and antiques and wanted customer #2 to make the purchased for him.
Additionally, there was no evidence that customer #2 paid back customer #1, at least from the account involved. All deposits were used to conduct internet purchases.

Normally, cash deposit transactions and internet purchases would not be identified as an attempt to launder money. Although, the activity appeared to be “unusual for the customer and not the type of transaction normally expected” the customer did give a reasonable explanation. So, our “counsel” says that regardless of the customer’s (#1) original statement that he didn’t want the transaction to be tied back to him, his and #2’s subsequent actions and “reasonable explanation” do not warrant suspicion.

So, I’m stumped.
Are banks expected to file based on customer’s inconsistent comments which may be followed by activities normally not considered suspicious relative to the statement made and the fact an explanation was given?

IMO, the “reasonableness” of the explanation is subjective and in the eye-of-the-beholder.
Our committee agrees that the explanation is reasonable. I think it’s garbage and something else is going on here. However, I have no evidence and don’t have a leg to stand on in defense of my opinion. Consequently, I (the BSA Office) is over-ruled by the SAR Committee and Chairman.

Any thoughts on this?


You aren't in the business of finding a crime unless it is clearly evident. Even then you can't make the assumption. However, you are in the business of identifying suspicious activity. The inconsistencies in the stories and transactions is suspicious and IMO warrants a filing especially if it is meeting the dollar threholds for mandatory filing.
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#1593837 - 08/18/11 06:48 PM Re: SAR Committee????? Last Mango
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If your BSA Chairman has the ultimate authority to approve or disapprove a SAR Filing, and your board approves this, you should tell the board that the Chairman is now the defacto BSA Officer for the Bank and the board had better formally acknowledge this or face a finding in the next audit and exam.

Send your congratulations to the new BSA Officer and tell him (or her) that you are very happy to simply be the BSA "Specialist".
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#1593840 - 08/18/11 06:50 PM Re: SAR Committee????? Princess Romeo
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BTW... did I read correctly that the BSA Officer hasn't had any recent training? That's a big red flag....does the BofD know?

Good luck!
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#1593857 - 08/18/11 07:13 PM Re: SAR Committee????? Polo
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Originally Posted By: Diputs
It’s me again…

Consequently, I (the BSA Officer) is over-ruled by the SAR Committee and Chairman.

Any thoughts on this?


I am the BSA Officer & Chairman of our committee which is only used for extra support when deciding whether or not to close an account.

I have a "charter"/"policy" that states:

"The SAR Committee does not decide whether or not a SAR should be filed, this decision is solely made by the BSA Officer. The BSA Officer may include the committee in the decision making process; however should there be a split decision over whether or not to file a SAR, the BSA Officer has the final say."
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