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#1657 - 05/08/01 05:57 PM Truth in Savings
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In order to simplify the updating of new account disclosures for tiered rate accounts, my bank wants to list just the tiers along with a statement that says, "Interest rates and annual percentage yields are available at your local branch". I'm having trouble convincing them that they can't disclose tiered rates in that fashion.

A couple other questions have arisen including how close the language on fee disclosures has to match the language on the customer's periodic statement, and whether or not a disclosure is needed for check printing fees since customers are billed by the printer and not the bank.

I'm new in compliance and haven't yet developed a good feel for when I need to fight to get things done "my way" and when I can say "don't do that" and not be too concerned over whether or not my advice is taken. I welcome all words of wisdom.


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#1658 - 05/08/01 06:52 PM Re: Truth in Savings
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If you are talking about the actual Reg DD disclosure given at account opening, then Reg DD, 12 CFR section 230.4 (a)(2)(b)(1) states that rate information must include "annual percentage yield" and the "interest rate", using those terms, and for fixed rate accounts, the period of time the interest rate will be in effect.

Look at the commentary to this section for specific information about Tiered Accounts. Generally you need to state the interest rate and corresponding annual percentage yield for each specified balance level.

Now if you are talking about an advertisement, as long as you don't state an interest rate, then you don't need to state an APY.

With respect to the names of the fees between the disclosures and the statement, I think a "reasonable" test is in order. Can a customer REASONABLY determine what the fees on their statement are for by checking their disclosure. In other words, "Maintence Fee" on the statement could reasonably be assumed to be the "Monthly Maintenance Fee" stated on the disclosure.

However, if your disclosure says you will charge a "Stop Payment Fee", and the account statement shows a "Transaction fee", then you may have an issue.

It has been my experience that banks do not disclose check printing fees since many customers go outside the bank to get their checks printed. The commentary does not list "check PRINTING fees" as a covered fee for disclosure.

If you have a chance, read the commentary on Reg DD, it will probably give you better guidance in answering these questions.

With respect to how insistent you should be, you can try my approach which is to inform management (and document this by a memo to mgt.) wherein you tell them "If you want to do this, it violates these Sections of Reg DD. Note that administrative enforcement is left up to the discretion of the regulator and the exam team. Inadvertent violations are generally treated less severly than "knowing" violations. In other words, a simple clerical error on a disclosure is not as bad as a conscience decision to ingore a regulation.

One note of interest, the civil liability portions are set to expire September 30, 2001. Any idea what the regulatory enforcement posture will be after that?

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#1659 - 05/08/01 10:09 PM Re: Truth in Savings
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We use a weekly rate sheet that we insert with our disclosure. We make sure the rate sheet (which can be interpreted as an ad) has all the required verbiage on it to meet ad requirements.
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#1660 - 05/08/01 10:22 PM Re: Truth in Savings
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John is correct in the way his bank handles tiered rate accounts. The five bank I work for all follow the same procedure for their tiered rate accounts
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#1661 - 05/09/01 01:51 PM Re: Truth in Savings
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I'm sorry to have to ask, how do I find the commentaries to Reg DD?

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#1662 - 05/10/01 04:09 AM Re: Truth in Savings
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#1663 - 05/09/01 05:25 PM Re: Truth in Savings
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. . . and never apologize for asking. If none of us asked questions, we would not learn from one another, and this forum (and others) would serve no purpose.
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