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#168650 - 03/15/04 06:59 PM
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The ACC is by far the toughest conference in college basketball this year.
I will excuse the obvious typographical error--You meant to say the Big 12, of course.
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#168651 - 03/15/04 07:11 PM
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Ummmm, no, I'm pretty sure I meant to say the ACC.
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#168653 - 03/15/04 07:30 PM
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE!!!!!!!!! Had fun picking them to go All.The.Way again this year! I know they can do it. Again. 
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#168654 - 03/15/04 07:32 PM
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The ACC is by far the toughest conference in college basketball this year.
I will excuse the obvious typographical error--You meant to say the Big 12, of course.
Again, Big 12 teams don't have better records because they are all so good they beat each other up!
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#168655 - 03/15/04 07:44 PM
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Did anyone watch the selection show yesterday? There was a rather interesting exchange between the St. Joe's coach and one of the CBS guys about whether or not St. Joe's deserved their ranking. At some point, St. Joe's is going to have to prove themselves. There are a lot of doubters.
I don't follow college basketball much, so I can't really join the debate about the toughest conference, but just remember that the number one overall seed is from the SEC, baby! (a Dickie V. expression for you there)
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#168657 - 03/15/04 09:12 PM
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You know it! Z and I had the same arguement about conference supremacy during football season, so it's rather humorous to see he and Magic having this debate. Kentucky is probably the best overall chance that the SEC has at bringing the trophy home, but I think that Florida, MSU, USC, Vandy, and Bama all have a shot at going pretty far. I may even pull for Florida, but only after having a beer or 50.
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#168658 - 03/15/04 09:15 PM
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Hmmm. Florida does not seem as good as their hype. MS State is peaking in the wrong direction. I think Okla State is a strong contender for the Final 4.
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#168659 - 03/15/04 09:24 PM
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Well, that's why they play the games. I thought I heard some of the guys on the Selection Show yesterday saying that OK State should have been seeded higher. In any case, there are usually one or two upsets in the early rounds. So, we'll see what happens.
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#168664 - 03/15/04 09:50 PM
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Gotcha! Seriously, Z, how do you think the Astros will do this year with Pettite and Rocket?
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#168665 - 03/15/04 09:53 PM
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The Rocket will definitely be a good captain for the young players, but we'll see if he still has what it takes. Pettite, what can I say, I think he'll do great. If they don't do it this year, they are going to have to dump some aging players.
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#168666 - 03/15/04 09:56 PM
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If everything goes according to form, then there should be a Duke/Kentucky showdown for the National Championship. What a game that would be! Don't you know that had to make the tournament selection committee smile a little bit. Several of the most memorable games in college basketball history have been Duke/Kentucky NCAA Tournament games, including the greatest college basketball game ever played:
March 28, 1992, The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA, East Regional Final
Duke 104 Kentucky 103 (OT)
Go Duke!
The 1992 game also happened to be the last UK broadcast by the late, great, Caywood Ledford. Caywood was one of the greatest radio announcers ever (the 'Cat fan in me says greatest, but I'll leave it at "one of"). Of course the player that made the last shot in the 1992 game (I cannot physically type his name) should have been ejected earlier in the game when he stomped on Aminu Timberlake, but ...... 
I was actually glad that they seeded both dUKe and UK as 1 seeds, I was afraid that they'd play in the regional final again. I think the 'Cats will be salty, but they're going to have to avoid injuries and stay hungry. I may feel title number 8 coming to Lexington.
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#168667 - 03/15/04 10:06 PM
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We've had this debate before, haven't we, Rusty? It wasn't a stomp, it was just a little love tap. I think the technical foul was the right call. The game was physical on both ends of the floor. As I understand it, Coach K did a classy thing in coming over and congratulating Caywood on the air for all his excellence in broadcasting after that game. Just to show you that I'm not so blinded by team loyalty, I'd have to say that Laettner was one of the less classy players to ever suit up for Duke. But boy was he talented and competitive.
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#168668 - 03/15/04 10:11 PM
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I thought I heard some of the guys on the Selection Show yesterday saying that OK State should have been seeded higher.
I think what hurt them was a late conference championship game. It just ended when they came on the air for the announcements. However, their record should have spoken a lot for them. (Gee, did a Sooner fan just say that? Oh, well, they are from Oklahoma!)
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#168669 - 03/16/04 01:38 PM
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USA Today has an article in today's issue that confirms the ACC as the best conference this year. It's the first time since the NCAA Tournament started seeding all the participant schools in 1979 that a single conference has placed 5 teams seeded 4 or higher. There have been 11 times that a conference has placed 4 teams at 4 or higher (none of which was the Big 12). Tournament committee chairman Bob Bowlsby is quoted as saying the ACC is the #1 conference this year. Go Duke!
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#168670 - 03/16/04 01:47 PM
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i still can't think about that game with dUKe (good call RGS)... I still think coach K has sold his soul to the devil  for all those wins... i mean come on... the man has not aged in over a decade... he has "evil" players (like the afore mentioned not nice person)... it's just not natural! but then again as well all know, we UK fans live and breathe to play them again... cause we ROCK!!! anyway sorry Big Blue love took over for a second!
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#168671 - 03/16/04 02:23 PM
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#168673 - 03/16/04 02:44 PM
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I call Duke players "soft", not evil. They can't play pro ball. Elton Brand is probably the best of them all. Even before the motorcycle accident, Jay Williams was soft. Obviously, Grant Hill is a bust - there is an endless supply of Duke grads who are best suited for sitting on the pine waiting for their shot to coach high school hoops. (ok, a bit biased - not a Duke fan)
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#168674 - 03/16/04 02:59 PM
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I won't dispute at all that the Big 12 is the second strongest conference this year. You've argued that case very well. I can see that you are most probably an excellent attorney. At one point last week, ESPN (a slightly more authoritative sports voice than USAToday) reported that ACC teams had the #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, and 13th ranked toughest schedules in the country. That seems to me to be indicative of both extremely high levels of interconference play as well as scheduling strong non-conference opponents. Quote:
We also have 12 teams in the conference vs. 9 in the ACC. Plenty of opporunity for Duke et al to beat up on a lot of second-rate nonconference teams.
But the Big 12 still only plays 16 conference games, just like the ACC. So it seems to me to be a very equal opportunity for both leagues to pick on non-conference teams. Plus you don't necessarily have to worry about meeting the strongest teams in your conference twice every year, both at their house and yours. Of course, the ACC will be going to that same format next year with the expansion (dilution). 
The ACC also has more than 50% of its teams this year ranked in the top 25 at the end of the season (5 of 9 teams). So this certainly argues to a tougher conference schedule than most of the Big 12 teams face.
Go Duke!
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