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#1740602 - 09/13/12 03:41 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Queen Mum
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
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Wait, you think that you can just jump from being a teacher in an elementary or Jr. High school to a university? LOL


why, yes, BF, if one has the educational background, one can. My son's high school lost 3 teachers from last year to the local college...2 were working on their Masters and one the PhD. and were recruited by the college based on their graduation date.

And depending on how fast a college is growing and how badly they need teachers, some have even taken without a masters...


Not here. We have a branch campus of a university in town. The Dean called wanting me to teach a night class on Music History since one of my degrees is Vocal Music Education. Couldn't do it because I don't have a Masters.


which is why i said: some have even taken without a masters...


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#1740627 - 09/13/12 04:17 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
Originally Posted By: Queen Mum
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Originally Posted By: B_F
Wait, you think that you can just jump from being a teacher in an elementary or Jr. High school to a university? LOL


why, yes, BF, if one has the educational background, one can. My son's high school lost 3 teachers from last year to the local college...2 were working on their Masters and one the PhD. and were recruited by the college based on their graduation date.

And depending on how fast a college is growing and how badly they need teachers, some have even taken without a masters...


Not here. We have a branch campus of a university in town. The Dean called wanting me to teach a night class on Music History since one of my degrees is Vocal Music Education. Couldn't do it because I don't have a Masters.


which is why i said: some have even taken without a masters...




But those arent upper case letters, so he's not shouting! laugh
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#1740726 - 09/13/12 07:22 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Bankbb1, PITA
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And all I did was state that they didn't do that here. I'm not shouting either as I'm not arguing....just making a statement.

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#1740728 - 09/13/12 07:30 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read MyBrainHurts
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I wonder if the Illinois teachers and other public employees will see all of the fat pensions they've been promised. The state pension system is so underfunded, and the state government just keeps kicking the can down the road. Eventually, the state could have to file bankruptcy. I don't know what will happen to the pensions then. Maybe the federal government will pick up the liability, and then you taxpayers in the other 49 states can pay it.


This is exactly what our governor has been trying to address, and he's gotten a lot of heat for it. But he took on the NJEA (New Jersey Education Association), perhaps the most powerful union in the state, and won concessions. I can't remember anyone else ever attempting that. He even had the temerity to cap superintendent salaries at a level equal to the governor's salary, $175,000 per annum. Consequently, a number of superintendents have left the state, to the greener pastures of NY and CT.
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#1740737 - 09/13/12 08:10 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Sinatra Fan
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#1740740 - 09/13/12 08:14 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read edAudit
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Hey, if you guys wouldn't pay them, they wouldn't have gone there. I have to admit: I was a bit stunned to see how much some of them were able to get in salary.
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#1740745 - 09/13/12 08:19 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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Some one needs to be the 1%rs
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#1740880 - 09/14/12 01:39 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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Are they still out on strike?
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#1740903 - 09/14/12 02:13 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Wonderofitall
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SAIVE OUR SKOOLS!

wow, your spelling is bad.... it's ARE not OUR. shesh.. smile

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#1740963 - 09/14/12 03:34 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Bob The Banker
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Originally Posted By: Bob The Banker
Originally Posted By: Wonderofitall
SAIVE OUR SKOOLS!

wow, your spelling is bad.... it's ARE not OUR. shesh.. smile


Yeah, you should of known that! wink
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#1740978 - 09/14/12 03:58 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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#1741006 - 09/14/12 04:30 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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#1741008 - 09/14/12 04:35 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read raitchjay
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I thought that spelling and grammar were no longer important?
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#1741093 - 09/14/12 06:30 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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Originally Posted By: Pale Rider
Are they still out on strike?



Yes. Hopefully, an agreement will be made today and the kids can get back to school Monday. That's what my friend, who is a reluctantly striking teacher is being told.
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#1741096 - 09/14/12 06:44 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
yes, because crossing the picket line to honor your contractual obligations can lead to worse problems...such as flat tires, beatings, and alienation by your peers...
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#1741101 - 09/14/12 06:51 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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I wish I could find a part-time job that paid $70k and could strike to get more!

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#1741136 - 09/14/12 07:21 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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They aren't striking over pay. I think they are stuck on another issue.

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#1741165 - 09/14/12 07:52 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
pay is a portion of the issue, but just to show it was not the main issue, they agreed to a 3% increase per year for 4 years versus a 4% increase per year...in a school system that is currently running a deficit of over $1b dollars
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#1741168 - 09/14/12 07:55 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
yes, because crossing the picket line to honor your contractual obligations can lead to worse problems...such as flat tires, beatings, and alienation by your peers...


There's no option to cross the picket lines. Most schools are closed and locked completely; the schools that are being kept open for students to have somewhere to go other than the streets are being staffed by non-union employees, and no sane parent with any other choice would send their kids there. It's not just a simple matter of "choosing" not to strike. If you're a union teacher in Chicago, you do what your extremely powerful union tells you you're doing.
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#1741185 - 09/14/12 08:09 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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As teachers are government workers and Unions were set up to protect the union workers from abusive bosses why do they need a union again?
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#1741190 - 09/14/12 08:14 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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Yes, they will agree to the raise but eliminate any performance related metrics, eliminate merit pay increases and eliminate perfomance reviews altogther. Then they will hold hands and say how this was all for the kids' sake.

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#1741200 - 09/14/12 08:27 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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The mayor's office has a lot of power and control but Chicago will need to become California before that will happen.

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#1741205 - 09/14/12 08:35 PM Re: Chicago Teachers on strike, kids can't read Pale Rider
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Many years ago my school district had a strike in my senior year. I crossed the picket line as a 16-17 year old. With the teachers yelling and name calling. The strike was declared illegal by the courts but they continued. In the end the teachers got what they were looking for (a salary more than double the parent salary). They should have instead fired them all for holding an illegal strike. It gave me a good perspective of who my "esteemed" teachers and politicians (with no backbone)were. Fast forward to today nothing has changed.
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