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#1768218 - 12/18/12 03:53 PM
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Somewhere I saw a suggestion that policemen out on patrol should park in school parking lots whenever they have to sit and do paperwork. I liked that idea.
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#1768296 - 12/18/12 05:31 PM
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If your school district can afford that, go for it. Our school district can't.
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#1768308 - 12/18/12 05:50 PM
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It does seem that this sort of thing rarely happens in inner city schools where they have metal detectors at the doors, and armed security on the premisis. I would be all for an armed person in my children's school.
A good friend of mine has a teen-aged step-son with Asperger's. The kid has given him so much trouble and grief, and while they do what they can, including rarely leaving him alone, they can only do so much.
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#1768312 - 12/18/12 05:53 PM
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I think a ban on assault weapons is a most logical first step. Really have no idea why it would take these sorts of incidents to bring it up; i've never understood why anyone short of the police or the army would have a legitimate need for them.
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#1768314 - 12/18/12 05:54 PM
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They have said that people with Asperger's do not tend to be violent. They said he also had a secondary condition, but did not specify what that was.
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#1768325 - 12/18/12 06:00 PM
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The reports now coming out about the mother are not pretty: Mother was a "survivalist" I did read other reports where the mom taught her sons how to shoot with deadly accuracy. She knew her son had issues, and she taught him how to kill and kept guns where he had access. She was the first to pay for her folly. Too bad so many other families had to pay for hers as well. I have to tell you when ever I have a conversation with someone who is convinced the world will fall into collapse and we had all better arm ourselves and prepare for the worst, I walk away thinking "I am more afraid of you than of anything else."
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#1768327 - 12/18/12 06:01 PM
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A good friend of mine posted this yesterday on Facebook, she is the parent of two children with different disorders. I thought she put it very well in that Asperger's is not the villain or the excuse anyone should latch onto here. In light of the news playing up the fact that Adam Lanza had Asperger's as the reason he caused this heinous tragedy, I feel the strong need to speak up for all spectrum disorders. Asperger's is an ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). It affects one's ability to appropriately identify, socialize or communicate in what people see as a "typical" way. it is NOT, in any way, a mental illness and does not cause sociopathic tendencies. It does not suppress human emotions, nor does it lower the level of conscience in an individual. It simply does not cause a person to be homicidal or capable of these behaviors. This boy may have had Asperger's, but he clearly was sociopathic, or some other severe mental illness, lacking empathy, conscience and a value for human life. The news is latching on to Asperger's and using it as their crutch because it's an easy answer for his behaviors, and everyone wants to understand WHY. The point is, we, as caring individuals, will never understand why because we are not sociopaths. But PLENTY of your friends, family, co-workers, neighbors, etc have Asperger's, I guarantee it, and they are just as baffled by this behavior and are in NO way prone to such violence. Please remember that and do not think Asperger's is a violent mental illness, or had a place in this tragedy. I hope this helps you to understand a little bit. As an advocate for autism spectrum disorders, this sort of press is devastating to the large amount of functioning people with ASD that we all know, love and work with every day, whether you know it or not.
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#1768335 - 12/18/12 06:07 PM
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Reports I have seen have stressed that Asperger's does not lend itself to violence. They also said that he had a secondary condition but did not specify what it was.
Neighbors have said the mother was very controlling and strict. That may have more to do with it than anything.
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#1768365 - 12/18/12 06:24 PM
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The reports now coming out about the mother are not pretty: Mother was a "survivalist" I did read other reports where the mom taught her sons how to shoot with deadly accuracy. She knew her son had issues, and she taught him how to kill and kept guns where he had access. She was the first to pay for her folly. Too bad so many other families had to pay for hers as well. I have to tell you when ever I have a conversation with someone who is convinced the world will fall into collapse and we had all better arm ourselves and prepare for the worst, I walk away thinking "I am more afraid of you than of anything else." I will agree with the last statement. I find it strange that this is being reported in many foriegn news outlets and not the US Media. There is a lot of misinformation out there, who know what is true.
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#1768398 - 12/18/12 06:46 PM
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The mom may have made many errors in judgement, but where was the father and older brother through the years. They seem to have fled the scene, sending back lots of cash, but not much else.
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#1768403 - 12/18/12 06:50 PM
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I find it strange that this is being reported in many foriegn news outlets and not the US Media.
There is a lot of misinformation out there, who know what is true.
Here's another article in the New York Magazine: Lanza's Mother was avid gun collector
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#1768410 - 12/18/12 06:56 PM
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Somewhere I saw a suggestion that policemen out on patrol should park in school parking lots whenever they have to sit and do paperwork. I liked that idea. My former bank paid to have police cars not in use, parked in the parking lot...as though a cop might be inside. I always had a level of comfort when my neighbor was a police officer. His cruiser was always parked right out front at night.
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#1768413 - 12/18/12 06:59 PM
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If your school district can afford that, go for it. Our school district can't. Our police force has a number of policemen that are dedicated to schools only. They drive similar patrol cars, but the cars have the school district name above the word "police." Don't know if the school district or the tax payers pay for this.
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#1768419 - 12/18/12 07:04 PM
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Swiggles, around here, if the district is paying for it, so are the tax payers Same with the police.
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#1768423 - 12/18/12 07:09 PM
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I think a ban on assault weapons is a most logical first step. Really have no idea why it would take these sorts of incidents to bring it up; i've never understood why anyone short of the police or the army would have a legitimate need for them. According to ABC News this morning....statistics prove that banning assault weapons decreases the number of deaths and number of incidents like this. A mentally ill person might still try to kill people with a gun but can't walk in and spray the room with a rapid fire weapon.
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#1768424 - 12/18/12 07:09 PM
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Swiggles, around here, if the district is paying for it, so are the tax payers Same with the police. Well...duh....yes. That is correct....didn't think before I wrote.
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#1768433 - 12/18/12 07:27 PM
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I find it strange that this is being reported in many foriegn news outlets and not the US Media.
There is a lot of misinformation out there, who know what is true.
Here's another article in the New York Magazine: Lanza's Mother was avid gun collector If she was an avid gun collector why did she only have 5 guns? This was the only number of guns that were given.
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#1768438 - 12/18/12 07:29 PM
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Second was a comment on how to guard against someone coming into a school again. Air Marshalls have been a good deterent. Why not have School Marshalls? Not cops patroling as many schools already have. But rather school personnel trained and armed and known only to the police.. That is a great idea in my opinion! I also agree that assault weapons should be controlled. I am an avid hunter, and I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon in my state. I am also a professional banker and a female. I do not have any assault weapons, personal protection weapons do not have the same impact as assault weapons, nobody needs them for hunting or for personal protection.
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#1768445 - 12/18/12 07:32 PM
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Yes, but a school is not like a one-shot ride airplane full of total strangers...they would have to constantly rotate the marshal or I'm thinking the students/teachers would easily figure it out.
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#1768452 - 12/18/12 07:38 PM
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could they start with better locks and doors on the school?
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