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#1824359 - 06/18/13 10:18 AM Skilled Nursing Facility
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Is lending to skilled nursing facilities that serve>50% medicaid patients considered a CD loan?

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#1824360 - 06/18/13 11:29 AM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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If the loan is >$1 million and more than 50% of patients are medicaid, it would qualify with proper documentation.

If less than or = $1 million it would be small business if to a for profit borrower and must be reported as small business subject to those rules. If the borrower is a non- profit and the loan is secured by non- farm non- residential real estate and <=1 million it will be small business.

If you search the CRA forum on nursing or medicaid you will find prior discussions.
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#1824507 - 06/18/13 03:22 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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What type of documentation would you recommend?

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#1824546 - 06/18/13 04:08 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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Primarily documentation as to the number of patients that are medicaid.
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#1824558 - 06/18/13 04:26 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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Do these facilities have to be non-profit or can they be for-profit as long as the medicaid percentage is there?

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#1824572 - 06/18/13 04:35 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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No requirement for non-profit.
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#1833394 - 07/16/13 07:23 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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Would this also qualify for HMDA as a multi-dwelling loan?

We have a loan that is over $1 million that loan ops is pushing as a HMDA loan. I know that I can report a multi-family dwelling as a CD loan if it qualifies under the CRA tests (medicaid percentage). Was hoping that this would qualify for the double reporting.

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#1833399 - 07/16/13 07:33 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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It depends if it qualifies as a dwelling under HMDA.

Generally: "excluded are transitory residences such as hotels, hospitals, and college dormitories—whose occupants have principal residences elsewhere."

(emphasis mine)

Take a look at this too: http://www.bankersonline.com/compliance/guru2007/gurus_comp030507b.html
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#1833408 - 07/16/13 07:45 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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I can see an examiner arguing skilled nursing is transitory and not HMDA reportable.
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#1833414 - 07/16/13 07:50 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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You have to be able to prove it is not transitory, ala the assisted living places, where I sometimes wish I was so someone would provide my meals, etc.!
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#1833454 - 07/16/13 09:02 PM Re: Skilled Nursing Facility up all night
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Ok, if it was an assisted living center, over $1 million, would that be reported as HMDA and a CD loan under CRA?

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