He was a Pro Bowl player following the 2012 season, for what that is worth.

While I am not a fan of bullying or intimidation at the NFL level, why is there such outrage over this guys behavior and wanting him out of the league? There are litterally hundreds of players that have plead guilty to DUI, drug charges, steroid use, domestic battery, to name but few illegal acts, that are still in the league, and there is little to no demand for their instant dismissal from the NFL? But this guy "picks on" another grown man and we want him banned for life.

Is it simply because this is something that affects our children and people don't like to see weaker individuals preyed upon? To me, driving under the influence will cause more damage to more people, and beating a woman is just as repulsive to picking on a weaker person. Why the inconsistency in the media and from the general public?

Dont get me wrong, I think Incognito is a POS, but I am equally distgusted by Leonard Little for killing a lady while driving drunk, or Antonio Cromartie who has at least 12 kids by 8 different women and didn't pay child support forever and had to take out a $500,000 advance from the Jets to get caught up. Add in Chad Johnson for beating his wife/girlfriend or Dez Bryant for hitting his mom of all people. ALL of these players played again after these incidents.

Jays - way to kill a good thread, buddy...bringing logic and sanity...

^^^ditto

I can only hope that the judicial system had something to say about those you mentioned and any others like them no matter who their employer is.

Um, Michael Vick anyone!?

out a month for a simple strained hamstring? Mary

Can't stand this guy!

50,000,000 dogs can't be wrong!

I don't think the league should punish Incognito, but for a sad-sack franchise like the Dolphins, they can't justify keeping him. Now if he were the left tackle protecting Peyton Manning's backside, they would probably just enroll him in some bogus sensitivity training, and move on.

It's a big story because it's unique and bullying is the 'it-topic' in schools right now. Those other things Jays mentioned, DUI, drugs, domestic issues, you hear that stuff from the NFL every week. ESPN probably won't even report it unless the player is a big star, because people are numb to those types of things.

jAYs, I agree with you on getting rid of all the trash. The problem is, most sports would have to merge teams to create whole ones. The whole thing with Cramartie drives me nuts, but Happy was talking about one specific idiot, not all idiots.

Michael Vick did time in jail. The law states that if they do their time, and do not break the law again, they are free. There are many trash-heads out there who have not. I am an animal lover. I was absolutely disgusted and outraged when I saw all of the videos and documentaries on Vick's dog fights. I also believe he paid his debt, whether anyone feels it wasn't long enough doesn't matter. It's the guys who don't that aggravate me.

I am not talking about getting rid of all trash. That will never happen. I just wanted an answer to the lynch mob mentality that goes after the isolated incident with vigor (Vick, Incognito & NO Saints) while the rest of the sacks of excrement are ignored or swept under the rug.

GoBucs answered the question, in that people go after something that is the "it topic" or something that can create a "morale outrage" to advance an agenda or a new topic so their news programs don't turn into Maury Povich "who is the baby daddy" wih DNA tests every day. I get it. But to me that is low hanging fruit, fighting all of the drug abusers, DUIs and the trash that beat women is far too difficult.

JMHO, the reason this is such a big deal is that Incognito did not commit a criminal act, therefore will not see jail time or fines. The other trash mentioned faced criminal charges,arrests, fines, etc. whether convicted or swept under the rug is not the issue. The victim here even though 6'5" and 315 lbs has been harassed and humiliated by a fellow employee and maybe the employer. Neither of those will face charges or go before a judge, except many years down the road in a civil suit if pursued.
That in my opinion is what all the uproar is about.

My son was bullied in middle school. If you can't take it - and apparently Martin can't - the bullying will not "toughen him up" or "make a man out of him". It just lessens your self esteem. Guess the coaching staff may know football but they don't know psychology. Martin removed himself and is getting counseling. Good for him. Better that than committing suicide.

These guys are supposed to be adults. Mature adults don't bully. I get the little hazing things and hitting of helmets when a good play is made. But bullying?? No. But again since my son was bullied, my perspective is different.

Martin played college football at Stanford and was apparently a good enough to play in the NFL and from all accounts a decent guy. Incognito apparenly is not a decent guy.

HO, the reason this is such a big deal is that Incognito did not commit a criminal act, therefore will not see jail time or fines.

Harassment Through Assault and Aggravated Assault
Harassment through assault occurs when "an intentional threat by word, or act that seeks to physically harm another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent." This is made clear in Florida criminal statute 784.011. Assault is a second degree misdemeanor which carries a maximum penalty of 60 days in jail and a $500 fine.



Read more: http://www.ehow.com/info_12167017_floridas-aggravated-harassment-laws.html#ixzz2jtXiN1cc

So when are they going to take him in cuffs to the Miami jail?

right after he gets back in his new Ferrari, hglii...geesh!

Seriously? Jail?

ED said Incognito, in his post ^^^^, there is reason to believe he may have violated a FL law of Harassment. Why would they not arrest him? Other than Miami may need to re-instate him to play Sunday?

There would need to be an arrest followed by arraignment followed by a bail hearing followed by a lengthy taxpayer funded trial.


so good chance never but that does not make what he is accused of legal.

I will hold my breath while I await the Broward, Dade or whatever county prosecutors to file that charge.

I would think that someone would need to file a complaint with them first.

if anything this would likely get no more than a summons to appear in court...basically a traffic ticket for his mouth...

I'm no pollyanna. I've been through in the Sports environment. But I'm still shocked by the vileness of what a grown professional did and said to a teammate. I think that this is what has got the public's attention.

Wow! Some interesting new information out there this morning with regards to the $15,000 Vegas trip, the lunchroom incident and how Martin interacted with his fellow offensive lineman.

I can't get the link but Monday Morning QB on NFL.com read the piece written by former Dolphin player Lydon Murtha.

Jays, can you summarize?

Ok, I'll give you that those areas, the Vegas trip and the lunchroom thing, are not that big a deal.

BUT, the racism, the phone call, and not accepting when a guy says hey, I'm not going to take you all out to eat, let it go, are another thing.