Skip to content
BOL Conferences
Thread Options
#1888879 - 01/22/14 01:55 PM NOW Accounts
terpsfan Offline
Diamond Poster
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,059
I know that NOW accounts are still restricted to individuals and non profits but does it matter for reporting purposes since now accounts and demand deposits are all lump to gather and reported as transaction accounts?

Return to Top
Deposits and Payments
#1888880 - 01/22/14 01:56 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
rlcarey Online
10K Club
rlcarey
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 83,370
Galveston, TX
Does what matter??
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com

Return to Top
#1888904 - 01/22/14 02:31 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
terpsfan Offline
Diamond Poster
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,059
Whether we have the business interest checking coded differently then the NOW accounts
Last edited by terpsfan; 01/22/14 02:31 PM.
Return to Top
#1888909 - 01/22/14 02:38 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
rlcarey Online
10K Club
rlcarey
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 83,370
Galveston, TX
They are two totally separate products under Regulation D with totally separate requirements. How can you not separate them within your systems if you choose to maintain both products.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com

Return to Top
#1888937 - 01/22/14 02:58 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
terpsfan Offline
Diamond Poster
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,059
But under reg D they are both reported as transaction accounts.

Return to Top
#1888949 - 01/22/14 03:09 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
rlcarey Online
10K Club
rlcarey
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 83,370
Galveston, TX
Really?? You might want to refer to your FR2900 lines A1 and A2.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com

Return to Top
#1888968 - 01/22/14 03:37 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
terpsfan Offline
Diamond Poster
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,059
You are right so they do need to be classified differently for reporting purposes. Thanks

Return to Top
#1934758 - 06/23/14 03:48 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
Lu Offline
Platinum Poster
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 597
Are banks allowed to have interest ckg for businesses other than Reg D requirements?
_________________________
"If you only laugh and enjoy life when your problems are all solved, you'll never enjoy life."

Return to Top
#1934774 - 06/23/14 04:08 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
BrianC Offline
Power Poster
BrianC
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,721
Illinois
Since Reg Q has been repealed you can offer interest bearing checking accounts to all customers. (NOW accounts can still not be held by for-profit entities.)
_________________________
Sola Gratia, Sola Fides, Sola Scriptura, Solus Christus, Soli Deo Gloria!
www.tcaregs.com

Return to Top
#1934777 - 06/23/14 04:16 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
Lu Offline
Platinum Poster
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 597
I really don't understand the difference other than coding. It is a DDA earning interest.
_________________________
"If you only laugh and enjoy life when your problems are all solved, you'll never enjoy life."

Return to Top
#1934801 - 06/23/14 05:02 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
BrianC Offline
Power Poster
BrianC
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,721
Illinois
The only remaining difference (other than ownership limitations) is that for a NOW account the bank must still reserve the right to require 7 days advance notice on withdrawals. Interest bearing checking accounts do not carry this requirement.
_________________________
Sola Gratia, Sola Fides, Sola Scriptura, Solus Christus, Soli Deo Gloria!
www.tcaregs.com

Return to Top
#1934847 - 06/23/14 06:39 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
John Burnett Offline
10K Club
John Burnett
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,086
Cape Cod
Prediction: when interest rates finally start trending upward so that interest is actually something bank depositors actively seek out, business customers will begin looking for ways to make their idle balances work for them. That's when banks may finally feel pressure to start offering demand deposit accounts with interest, and perhaps convert current NOW accounts into DDAs, thus eliminating this question once and for all.

Of course, 30 years ago I might have predicted that debit cards would eliminate the need for cash payments.
_________________________
John S. Burnett
BankersOnline.com
Fighting for Compliance since 1976
Bankers' Threads User #8

Return to Top
#1935481 - 06/25/14 03:40 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
Lu Offline
Platinum Poster
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 597
I think they just like to keep us confused. frown
_________________________
"If you only laugh and enjoy life when your problems are all solved, you'll never enjoy life."

Return to Top
#1935675 - 06/26/14 01:39 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
Combustible Offline
Diamond Poster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,268
So, if I may tag onto this post, the bank can offer an interest bearing business checking account, but simply by not reserving the right to require 7 days advance notice on withdrawals, the account won't be considered a NOW account, and the product can be available to profit entities? Feels like I'm reading too much into this.....

Return to Top
#1935861 - 06/26/14 06:52 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
John Burnett Offline
10K Club
John Burnett
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,086
Cape Cod
Actually, you're reading just about the right amount into it. Take a NOW account, do away with the reservation of right to require notice of withdrawal, and you have a demand deposit account without the ownership restrictions of a NOW account. Add some business account features, such as business service charges or analysis, and you have a full-fledged business DDA with interest. There are a few other tweaks, such as making sure the accounts are re-classed so they aren't reported incorrectly on Call Reports and the like.
_________________________
John S. Burnett
BankersOnline.com
Fighting for Compliance since 1976
Bankers' Threads User #8

Return to Top
#1935926 - 06/26/14 08:42 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
Combustible Offline
Diamond Poster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,268
Hallelujah! I'm putting that in my report. This is one time it will be good to reinvent the proverbial wheel.

Return to Top
#1950269 - 08/07/14 05:08 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
Vive Accommodare Offline
Platinum Poster
Vive Accommodare
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 581
Compliance
What if we decided to remove the verbiage of the seven day notice from our Money Market account? It would then be subject to earning interest and would not exclude certain entities?
_________________________
"Tact is telling someone to go to [censored] in such a way, they look forward to the trip" Winston Churchill

Return to Top
#1950278 - 08/07/14 05:19 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
John Burnett Offline
10K Club
John Burnett
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,086
Cape Cod
If you took the 7-day notice away from the money market account, it would no longer qualify as a savings account. It would by default become a DDA, I believe. I imagine, though, that you'd first want to figure out what sorts of interest rates you'd want to pay on the account, because you sure as there are little red apples not want to pay MMDA rates on a transaction account.
_________________________
John S. Burnett
BankersOnline.com
Fighting for Compliance since 1976
Bankers' Threads User #8

Return to Top
#1950315 - 08/07/14 05:39 PM Re: NOW Accounts terpsfan
Vive Accommodare Offline
Platinum Poster
Vive Accommodare
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 581
Compliance
Thank you for the insight John!
_________________________
"Tact is telling someone to go to [censored] in such a way, they look forward to the trip" Winston Churchill

Return to Top

Moderator:  John Burnett