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#1939294 - 07/10/14 02:56 PM Advertising Rate As Low As
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We have an ad that states:

Our 4.00% APR* Home Equity Loan Should Help You On Your Way!!

*APR=Annual Percentage Rate. APR on approved loan with auto debit is as low as 4.00% fixed rate as of June 25, 2014.


Would we be ok charging a fee, and including it as a finance charge, which is going to increase the APR by a little bit, and having the above verbiage?

Reg Z states that we only should state what terms would be available to the customer. With the verbiage, "as low as,"
and starting our rate at 4.00% we will end up being above 4.00%. I don't feel that would be ok.

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#1939405 - 07/10/14 04:47 PM Re: Advertising Rate As Low As Newbie06
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Originally Posted By: Runner4fun
a fee...is going to increase the APR by a little bit
If the advertised APR is off by no more than the allowable tolerance, you can probably defend the difference. I'd be more concerned about UDAAP.
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#1939440 - 07/10/14 05:44 PM Re: Advertising Rate As Low As Richard Insley
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I believe a consultant said that the tolerance rule under Reg Z had nothing to do with advertising. The tolerance would only play a part on disclosures.

And yes, I am concerned about UDAAP. I guess we could either not charge the fee or lower the initial rate so that when the finance charge was added the rate would be at 4.00%.

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#1939452 - 07/10/14 06:04 PM Re: Advertising Rate As Low As Newbie06
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Originally Posted By: Runner4fun
I believe a consultant said that the tolerance rule under Reg Z had nothing to do with advertising.
Did this consultant happen to provide a sectional reference? I don't see anything in Section 1026.24 that alters the accuracy standard set in Section 1026.22. I'm not suggesting the tolerance should be used in this manner--only that you might be able to wiggle off the TIL hook.

The UDAAP concern is much higher. It's a classic case of deceptive advertising if you state or create the impression that the APR is equal to the interest rate when there are FCs other than interest.
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#1940750 - 07/14/14 09:07 PM Re: Advertising Rate As Low As Newbie06
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Plus you need to be darn sure a good portion of your customer base is going to get that 4%, or somewhere very close to it. If you advertise 'as low as 4%', and only 5% of your customers are getting that, you're going to have a tough time justifying that to your examiners.
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