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#1954427 - 08/19/14 02:45 PM
Appraisal Notice if no new appraisal being ordered
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I know there are differing opinions on whether you still have to provide the right to receive a copy of the appraisal notice if you know you aren't going to order a new appraisal (or evaluation) for a transaction. I'm curious to see who is doing it which way and if anyone has found anything "concrete" that specifies one way or the other.
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#1954432 - 08/19/14 02:52 PM
Re: Appraisal Notice if no new appraisal being ordered
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I don't know of anything that allows for not giving it, even with knowledge.
ETA: See below...strike this one up to brain freeze.
Last edited by RR Joker; 08/19/14 03:06 PM.
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#1954447 - 08/19/14 02:59 PM
Re: Appraisal Notice if no new appraisal being ordered
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That's been my opinion but I have seen John Burnett opine otherwise, as well as a mortgage newsletter I recently came across.
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#1954459 - 08/19/14 03:06 PM
Re: Appraisal Notice if no new appraisal being ordered
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Okay, well, yes, if 14(a)(1) doesn't apply, then you would not have to comply with:
(2) Disclosure. For applications subject to paragraph (a)(1) of this section, a creditor shall mail or deliver to an applicant, not later than the third business day after the creditor receives an application for credit that is to be secured by a first lien on a dwelling, a notice in writing of the applicant's right to receive a copy of all written appraisals developed in connection with the application. In the case of an application for credit that is not to be secured by a first lien on a dwelling at the time of application, if the creditor later determines the credit will be secured by a first lien on a dwelling, the creditor shall mail or deliver the same notice in writing not later than the third business day after the creditor determines that the loan is to be secured by a first lien on a dwelling.
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#1954516 - 08/19/14 03:41 PM
Re: Appraisal Notice if no new appraisal being ordered
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So, Kaybee, would you say this "exemption" would only apply to a straight renewal of a loan and not to a refinance (that is still a 1st lien but maybe included more cash out)?
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#1954589 - 08/19/14 04:46 PM
Re: Appraisal Notice if no new appraisal being ordered
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I'm not Kaybee, but....if you are renewing and will not develop a new written valuation report, you don't owe them the report (per 14.a.1) and therefore don't owe them a disclosure (per 14.a.2)
The question becomes are you SURE you won't order a new evaluation or appraisal. And are you sure you want your lending staff making the call. Or is it better to have a procedure that says we give the disclosure on all first liens on dwellings. And then we have a procedure that says we deliver the report if we get one.
I think that may have been the intention of the poll....we don't HAVE to give the disclosure, but how many of us are doing it anyway.
Sorry, raiders, your poll! You know your intent better than I.
Last edited by Cornfed Turtle; 08/19/14 04:49 PM. Reason: Add Apology
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#1955011 - 08/20/14 01:15 PM
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Thanks for the responses, everyone. I would like to keep the poll going to get more responses on how this is being handled at other banks.
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#1955583 - 08/21/14 01:09 PM
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I'm gonna bump this poll up one more time then put this puppy to rest! Thanks for the responses!
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