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#1990013 - 01/21/15 04:45 PM
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What can the NFL do? They certainly cannot put the Colts in the SB. So since this appears to be a pattern with Belichick (south park pronunciation) you either ban him or do another slap on the wrist. Too much money in football to ban him, so they lose another draft pick. Big deal! The Pats do more with free agency. Why not? Why reward the Pats for cheating again? Make them stay home. Send the Colts to the Super Bowl. That would really show that Goodell's weren't deflated.
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#1990022 - 01/21/15 04:53 PM
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They could have a sudden death play off of all teams that were alleged to be cheated by the pats but that would include all teams
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#1990027 - 01/21/15 04:57 PM
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I think Tom Brady should go to jail.
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#1990040 - 01/21/15 05:21 PM
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his right hand should be cut off
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#1990046 - 01/21/15 05:28 PM
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make Tom play with Rodgers max inflated footballs and see how weak his grip really is.
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#1990108 - 01/21/15 06:44 PM
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From WEEI.com
According to a report from Pro Football Talk, the NFL reviewed its game officials’ actions Sunday and determined that they properly checked the footballs before the AFC championship game.
It was later determined that 11 of the 12 footballs the Patriots were using on offense were substantially deflated from the minimum accepted pressure of 12.5 pounds per square inch (PSI).
The Pro Football Talk report, which credits a league source, also indicated that the two-pound difference in PSI would not be obvious to an official handling the ball unless specifically looking for it.
The Colts reportedly alerted the officials to the issue during the first half, and the balls were tested at halftime and reinflated to the proper amount. It did not have a detrimental affect on Tom Brady and Co., as the Patriots outscored Indianapolis 28-0 in the second half en route to a 45-7 victory
How foolish. Besides breaking the rules, it wasn't even necessary to do. The Pats would have won using a bowling ball.
For the haters, it only reinforces the cheating aspect of their success over the last 14 years. For the Patriot lovers, many are disgusted by this idiotic move.
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#1990120 - 01/21/15 07:12 PM
Re: Superbowl picks?
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The league's cred is on the line because of this. They must do something.
QBs paying to have balls deflated or scuffed up has been a long standing problem.
Either have the rule or don't. They can't ignore.....
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#1990122 - 01/21/15 07:19 PM
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The league's cred is on the line because of this. please...this league lost credibility years ago as they've continued to tweek rules to protect certain players but not others, inconsistency on rules (ground can't cause a fumble to a runner but it can to a pass), hands to the face, head, tackle with crown, blah blah blah...
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#1990145 - 01/21/15 07:57 PM
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I agree with Sox, deflating the footballs did not result in a 38 point victory for the Patriots. While it may have provided some competitive advantage, it would not have been enough to contribute significantly to such a lopsided win. I believe that the league will probably take away a draft pick or 2, but I do not see the punishment going any further.
With that said, Go Seahawks! (Russell Wilson especially)
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#1990159 - 01/21/15 08:24 PM
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this is likely just a publicity ploy by the NFL to try and generate interest in what will be a boring game...
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#1990174 - 01/21/15 08:58 PM
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This really is just perfect for me. I get to hate on the Patriots, but if they win I wont mind as much because i like the image of Slick Willy Bellicheck coating his running backs shoes in flubber and throwing pocket sand in receivers faces. Plus, Goodells gonna look dumb again.
I thought i had used all my 2015 sports schaudenfreude up when Florida St and Alabama lost. But now it looks like 2015 is just gonna keep giving and be the best hatin' year ever. Just 12 months of Kobe bricking his way to 19 wins and A-Rod making the Yankees clubhouse awkward. I should put money on Duke losing in the first round!!
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#1990226 - 01/21/15 10:17 PM
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I'm giving the whole thing a miss.
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#1990231 - 01/21/15 10:23 PM
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it sounds to me a lot of people were in on the deflated football thing
I see the only solution to be:
cut Brady's right hand off brand the center's buttocks with an 'L' (that's where the football met Brady's hands) sew sleeves back onto Belichick's hoodie (but ones that don't match) poison Drew Bledsoe's vineyard make Chris Christie hug Robert Kraft all creepy like
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#1990279 - 01/22/15 11:53 AM
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I agree with Sox, deflating the footballs did not result in a 38 point victory for the Patriots. While it may have provided some competitive advantage, it would not have been enough to contribute significantly to such a lopsided win. I believe that the league will probably take away a draft pick or 2, but I do not see the punishment going any further.
With that said, Go Seahawks! (Russell Wilson especially) But it may be enough for the win against the Ravens Does anyone believe that this is a one time on shot deal?
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#1990280 - 01/22/15 12:40 PM
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I agree with Sox, deflating the footballs did not result in a 38 point victory for the Patriots. While it may have provided some competitive advantage, it would not have been enough to contribute significantly to such a lopsided win. I believe that the league will probably take away a draft pick or 2, but I do not see the punishment going any further.
With that said, Go Seahawks! (Russell Wilson especially) But it may be enough for the win against the Ravens Does anyone believe that this is a one time on shot deal? Probably not the first time. It sounds like a common practice for all teams-Aaron Rodgers has said the prefers over inflated balls, Brad Johnson, QB for the Buccaneers for their Super Bowl win said he paid people to scuff up the balls to his specifications prior to that game. I don't say that to defend what happened-the Patriots deserve the heat they get given their history. But lets not make it sound like this stuff doesn't happen elsewhere.
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#1990287 - 01/22/15 01:56 PM
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Quite honestly, if the defense is getting good pressure on the quarterback and the defensive backs and linebackers are covering the receivers well then it would not matter what they did to the footballs. Personally, while I do believe it is cheating to adjust the air pressure in the footballs, if the defense does its job and executes then it would not matter.
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#1990360 - 01/22/15 04:37 PM
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Either way almost nothing can or will be done. Not that I like the Pats. I am loving all of the jokes about Brady and his dainty weak little hands.
Football has become so over regulated. Why each team gets their own balls I don't know. The League should issue balls that meet certain conditions. If a QB cannot throw those balls, then that is his (or her in the case of Brady) problem.
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#1990363 - 01/22/15 04:39 PM
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Quite honestly, if the defense is getting good pressure on the quarterback and the defensive backs and linebackers are covering the receivers well then it would not matter what they did to the footballs. Personally, while I do believe it is cheating to adjust the air pressure in the footballs, if the defense does its job and executes then it would not matter. Because Brady is an accurate passer for about 15 yards. There is always a spot that a QB can put the ball where his player will make the play. A perfect pass is indefensible. But also look at the weather conditions. Wet, cold weather. Hard balls are tough to throw and catch. They are also harder to hold on to when running. I am sure the Pats did this on purpose but I don't really care. Until the NFL stops over litigating and creating millions of rules, football is unwatchable. Case in point the Seahawks game..... if offensive PI was ever called in a game the Seahawks would not be in the SB.
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#1990372 - 01/22/15 04:55 PM
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The coach says he knows nothing about the balls. Suggests reporters ask Brady.
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#1990379 - 01/22/15 05:07 PM
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Case in point the Seahawks game..... if offensive PI was ever called in a game the Seahawks would not be in the SB even posses a winning record. fixed
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#1990394 - 01/22/15 05:41 PM
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Given the amount of contact they are allowing on the defensive side these day, it kind of evens the score. Let them fight for it.
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#1990417 - 01/22/15 06:41 PM
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from Belichicks press conference:
“I think we all know that quarterbacks, kickers, specialists have certain preferences on footballs. They know a lot more about it than I do. They’re a lot more sensitive to it than I am. I hear them comment on it from time to time, but I can tell and they will tell you that there is never any sympathy whatsoever from me on that subject. Zero. Tom’s personal preferences on his footballs is something he can talk about in much better detail and information than I can possibly provide."
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#1990491 - 01/22/15 08:50 PM
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From the press conference by Belichick it is clear that the blame should go to the "Ball Regulatory Agency development yutz" (BRADY)
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