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#1994824 - 02/10/15 03:27 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#1994828 - 02/10/15 03:32 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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The only saving grace for the Jets that year was Miami stunk worse than them (they beat them twice).

So that was 2 easy games 2 really easy ones.

One of the Major reasons the bills went 7 and 9 is they played they beat the Jets and Miami twice.

so you can say that 6 of the 16 were extremely easy.
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#1994835 - 02/10/15 03:38 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) RVFlyboy
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Originally Posted By: BeechFlyboy


I do not think that the Steelers or Cowboys are impressed with 4 wins.
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#1994837 - 02/10/15 03:43 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#1994863 - 02/10/15 04:24 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) RVFlyboy
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Originally Posted By: BeechFlyboy
And it wasn't the taping that was illegal to begin with. It was where the taping was occurring.


That's not exactly a valid defense (no pun intended). That's like a hitman saying "It's not illegal to swing a tire iron, it's just that someone's head was in its path." wink
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#1994876 - 02/10/15 04:38 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) GuitarDude
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Originally Posted By: GuitarDude
Originally Posted By: BeechFlyboy
And it wasn't the taping that was illegal to begin with. It was where the taping was occurring.


That's not exactly a valid defense (no pun intended). That's like a hitman saying "It's not illegal to swing a tire iron, it's just that someone's head was in its path." wink

Understand, and wasn't trying to say it wasn't cheating. It was. But let's be clear about what it was that was done illegally and what impact that had on any games that occurred after it came to light. And let's also be clear that this is not isolated to the Patriots. They were just the ones that got caught (ratted out, Mangini). And they got significantly punished as a result.

Many want to say that spygate taints all of the Patriots Super Bowl wins prior to its uncovering. But the fact is, the rule the Patriots violated didn't even become a rule until after the Patriots had won their third Lombardi, so how can those trophies be tainted by Spygate?
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#1994949 - 02/10/15 07:00 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
so if we go off the old assumption my Catholic School nuns used...for every instance of cheating that was caught, at least 10 instances weren't...bodes poorly for the Patriots, doesn't it?

As a follower of the Saints, who were thrown under the bus by the NFL and had multiple coaches suspended (1 for a full season) because of bounties that were allegedly put on opponents (subsequently proven by arbitration to be untrue), I wonder why there has been no knee-jerk suspension reaction for the Patriots.
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#1994953 - 02/10/15 07:02 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
I wonder why there has been no knee-jerk suspension reaction for the Patriots.


because I think the NFL is sick of it always making them look like idiots. So, now they will do nothing and look like slow idiots
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#1995044 - 02/10/15 08:57 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) DoS
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because, according to Richard Sherman, Bob Kraft and Rog Goodell are buddies.

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#1995082 - 02/10/15 09:44 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Because nothing has been proven yet.
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#1995087 - 02/10/15 09:50 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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and as soon as it has been "dis-proven" the evidence will go into the destruct bin.
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#1995106 - 02/10/15 10:35 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
so if we go off the old assumption my Catholic School nuns used...for every instance of cheating that was caught, at least 10 instances weren't...bodes poorly for the Patriots, doesn't it?

As a follower of the Saints, who were thrown under the bus by the NFL and had multiple coaches suspended (1 for a full season) because of bounties that were allegedly put on opponents (subsequently proven by arbitration to be untrue), I wonder why there has been no knee-jerk suspension reaction for the Patriots.
Just because the nuns assumed it, doesn't make it accurate and universal.

And even if we do take your nuns' assumption to be accurate, nobody is denying the Patriots filmed from illegal locations multiple times. In fact for just about every game in 2005, 2006, and half of the first game of 2007 after the NFL clarified in 2005 that such filming was not to be done. But does that then automatically mean they must have been cheating ten other ways too? That's what Internet innuendo has created. I say prove it.
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#1995174 - 02/11/15 01:49 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) edAudit
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and as soon as it has been "dis-proven" the evidence will go into the destruct bin.


:hands ed a tin foil hat:
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#1995176 - 02/11/15 01:54 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#1995177 - 02/11/15 01:56 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) RVFlyboy
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
Originally Posted By: BeechFlyboy
I say prove it.


the opposite view would say prove it wasn't
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#1995182 - 02/11/15 01:56 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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I am aware it was destroyed. My comment was referencing the most recent "scandal" and your assertion the evidence will be destroyed. My apologies for not being clear.
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#1995194 - 02/11/15 02:22 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#1995209 - 02/11/15 02:42 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Your sports team is vastly inferior
That simple fact is plainly obvious to see
We’re gonna kick your collective posterior
Of course you realize we’re speaking figuratively
Our stats are thoroughly impressive
Our coach really has the Midas touch
Our players are fast and strong and brave
And your guys, eh, not so much

In fact we’ve played teams across the nation
And you’re the worst one we’ve come across
Try to assimilate that information
And it just might help you cope with your impending loss
Oh, and if somehow we are still failing
To effectively articulate the points at hand
Allow us now to summarize them in a manner
That your feeble brains can understand

We’re great (we’re great)
And you suck (you suck)
We’re great (we’re great)
And you suck (you suck)
We’re great (we’re great)
And you suck (you suck)
You see there’s us (we’re great)
And then there’s you (you suck)
We’re really, really great (really great)
In contrast, you really suck (really suck)
Okay, full disclosure, we’re not that great
But nevertheless, you suck

Your sports team will soon suffer swift defeat
That theory’s backed up by empirical evidence
We’re gonna grind up your guys into burger meat
Again, of course, we’re speaking in the figurative sense
What’s the use of even going through the motions
When you know that you’re gonna lose anyhow
So why don’t you save us all some time
And give up now (you suck!)
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#1995210 - 02/11/15 02:42 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#1995213 - 02/11/15 02:54 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) edAudit
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
Quote:
“For more than 75 years, Little League has been an organization where fair play is valued over the importance of wins and losses


if this were true, they would not keep score, host tournaments where champions are crowned, nor have TV coverage of the little league world series...
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#1995226 - 02/11/15 03:13 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Originally Posted By: HappyGilmore
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“For more than 75 years, Little League has been an organization where fair play is valued over the importance of wins and losses


if this were true, they would not keep score, host tournaments where champions are crowned, nor have TV coverage of the little league world series...
Or strip LLWS titles from teams using ineligible players.
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#1995228 - 02/11/15 03:13 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#1995246 - 02/11/15 03:33 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) Blade Scrapper
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The days of little leaguers being groomed on sandlots and in backyards are long gone. ESPN and the Little League organization can try to spin it that way, but the kids that make it to Williamsport aren't using hand-me-down mits and bats. These kids are likely paying top-dollar for professional instruction and year-round training, and are part of the crazy world of youth travel sports. I'd be more surprised if these teams weren't trying to use ringers from outside of their boundaries.
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#1995770 - 02/12/15 09:02 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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I dont think the punishment fits the crime, but i dont like the idea of stripping titles as a punishment anyways. I mean, it's not like a championship belt where you're continualy defending it. It's a thing that happened. you dont have a time machine. If you dont want to recognize it, ok, but i dont have to forget it. The moments still happened.

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#1995786 - 02/12/15 09:33 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Somewhere in the middle
1. This was suppose to be about a inner city team from Chicago, and how they overcame their situation to be winners.

2. I liked the interview this morning with the mother of the suspect child. She said she did not understand why this was an issue, he has played for other teams with no issues shocked

3. If these were inner city kids, someone must be buying or sponsoring them.
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