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#2007806 - 04/14/15 12:59 AM CFPB Timeline example - problems
KStogniew Offline
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I'm going through the timeline and wondered if I'm missing something - need some guru help here:

LE mailed Thursday 8/6, states it is received Tuesday 8/11. If the disclosure is presumed received on 3rd business day (counting Saturdays), it should be received 8/10, right?? (See also Comment 19(f)(1)(ii)-2 that gives this exact scenario, stating it is received on Monday).

On 9/4, it gives as an example of a Changed Circumstance the receipt of an appraisal showing LTV >80% so now the loan needs MI. Is this based on eligibility -- because the consumer is no longer eligible for a non-MI loan-- or, because something relied on (a specific property value) became inaccurate? Either way, the fees would need to exceed tolerances to allow a revised LE, correct? I am assuming the fee in this case is upfront MI to a third party where the consumer is not allowed to shop - and not prepayment of future premiums or payment into escrow account (which would not be subject to tolerance). I don't often see this type of upfront MI but perhaps it is common?

For the post-consummation changes, if I start counting calendar days on 10/31, the 30th day would be Sunday, November 29. But the example gives Monday November30 as the last day to place corrected disclosures in the mail. Is this because the 30th day is a Sunday, so the can be sent on the next business day?

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#2007825 - 04/14/15 12:52 PM Re: CFPB Timeline example - problems KStogniew
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1. For LE delivery, the creditors offices have to be open for it to be a business day. The lead-in states that the creditor is not open on Saturdays.

2. Not sure that is says you have to re-issue, it just says it is the last day to re-issue. I can't imagine adding mortgage insurance to a loan and not blowing out the APR.

3. Yes - it would default to the next business day.
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#2016226 - 05/27/15 03:53 PM Re: CFPB Timeline example - problems rlcarey
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On question 1, however, 1026.2(a)(6) states that business day includes Saturday for 1026.19(e)(1)(iv) purposes.

.19(e)(1)(iv) deals with "receipt of early disclosures"

So, I also would think that receipt should have been on 8/10 regardless if the creditor is open on Saturdays.
Originally Posted By rlcarey
1. For LE delivery, the creditors offices have to be open for it to be a business day. The lead-in states that the creditor is not open on Saturdays.

2. Not sure that is says you have to re-issue, it just says it is the last day to re-issue. I can't imagine adding mortgage insurance to a loan and not blowing out the APR.

3. Yes - it would default to the next business day.

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#2016453 - 05/27/15 11:57 PM Re: CFPB Timeline example - problems KStogniew
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I stand corrected. Nice catch. Whether the creditor was open or not does not impact business days while the disclosures were already in the mail.
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