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#2020368 - 06/15/15 02:08 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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The article pretty much sums up what was agreed here that the NFL is not competent but it proves or disproves nothing. I also do not think that it will change the suspension as someone's mind is made up.
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#2020375 - 06/15/15 02:13 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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The article pretty much sums up what was agreed here that the NFL is not competent but it proves or disproves nothing. I also do not think that it will change the suspension as someone's mind is made up.
Agree that Goodell's mind is made up. But it might have an influence on the judge that's going to hear the court case and may overturn the suspension much like the court did in the Saints bounty case, based at least in part on a report from this same outfit.
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#2020378 - 06/15/15 02:18 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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I can not see a reason for the overrule as the judge/jury/executioner has been clearly stated in the CBA and signed by the Players Association.
FWIW: I do not see any need for taxpayer money (court $$)to be spent on this mess.
The Players Association should have bargained a better deal if they did not trust the NFL to play fair.
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#2020382 - 06/15/15 02:22 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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I agree the players have no right to whine since they agreed to let the Commissioner be judge and jury-that is their problem.
I do think there is enough in this report for Gooddell to consider reducing the suspension. The Wells report is shaky at best. The NFL completely bungled this issue.
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#2020385 - 06/15/15 02:24 PM
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The minute that that happens (some chance) the "haters" and a few actual people who like watching a fair game will call it a cover-up and a gift to his good buddy Kraft.
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#2020425 - 06/15/15 03:38 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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There is no way the 4 game suspension sticks.
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#2020648 - 06/16/15 03:00 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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I agree the players have no right to whine since they agreed to let the Commissioner be judge and jury-that is their problem.
I do think there is enough in this report for Gooddell to consider reducing the suspension. The Wells report is shaky at best. The NFL completely bungled this issue.
I would never give Brady the chance to whine because..... he did not cooperate with the investigation. The Wells report is spot on. Had Brady been cooperative and they not found anything with Brady but instead the ball boys, I think he would have a leg to stand on. But he cheated, he knew he cheated, and he tried to cover it up by not cooperating. What more is there to discuss?
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#2020649 - 06/16/15 03:01 PM
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There is no way the 4 game suspension sticks. It should be a lifetime ban.
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#2020668 - 06/16/15 03:30 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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Punish for not cooperating-ok. No argument there. Your comment regarding a lifetime ban is simply ridiculous.
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#2020670 - 06/16/15 03:34 PM
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Minor issue just suspend the ball boy.
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#2020684 - 06/16/15 03:53 PM
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Makes you consider living off the grid.
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#2020708 - 06/16/15 05:01 PM
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Haters be hatin'. Just some Houston paranoia.
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#2020712 - 06/16/15 05:10 PM
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somehow it will go back to McGuire and steroids.
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#2020732 - 06/16/15 05:47 PM
Re: More Cheaters (really not the Patriots this time)
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I'm pretty sure the only reason St. Louis won last night is because they hacked Trevor May's pitch signals
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#2022398 - 06/24/15 11:40 AM
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It must be difficult to talk (testify) for 10 hours on a subject that you have no knowledge of.
Just saying
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#2022420 - 06/24/15 12:52 PM
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It must be difficult knowing you paid $5 million for a "report" that isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Just saying.
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#2022429 - 06/24/15 01:01 PM
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It must be difficult knowing you paid $5 million for a "report" that isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Just saying. you (as most of us) work for a bank and most likely hired an outside consultant to write a report. We all know what that feels like.
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#2022430 - 06/24/15 01:01 PM
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OK.
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#2022433 - 06/24/15 01:06 PM
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My point was (especially if he had no knowledge and this was not a Brady slam) what could possibly be covered in 10 hours of testimony about a alleged task that took less than 3 minutes.
NFL, (like always) is dropping the ball on this one.
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#2022516 - 06/24/15 02:57 PM
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The same could be said for the 103 days it took for the report. Having read through it I found it comical. Alleged this, not sure which gauge was used for which test and when... blah blah.
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#2022616 - 06/24/15 04:25 PM
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His testimony was to refute the allegations made in the Wells Report. The fact that he acceded to doing this under oath, facing criminal penalties for perjury if he is caught in any lies, sends a pretty strong message as well. Quit grasping at straws, Ed. Not to mention that although the entire hearing took 10 hours, none of us knows how much of that time was him testifying.
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