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#2025346 - 07/06/15 04:59 PM
Software and value/usefulness to Community banks
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Once again, we are looking at software, namely the WiZ product and Centrax. Nice. However, we will still have the cobble together info about investments and donations on separate spreadsheets so the software programs will be only good for loan date. Nice reports, but still, only loan data. So, a question for community banks: have you purchased and are you using CRA software?
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#2025448 - 07/06/15 08:31 PM
Re: Software and value/usefulness to Community banks
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Princess Romeo, if it was able to extract data from different sources into one program, that would be very efficient and worth more than I would pay for WIZ and Centrax as they exist currently. Just the data alone, presented in the same format and providing a statistical summary would be useful as the summary, ideally would generally have the same look and feel as the loan reports. That help?
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#2025491 - 07/07/15 12:36 AM
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#2025551 - 07/07/15 02:12 PM
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Kathleen--As Internal Auditors, we are setting up our first ever CRA Review--I'm stumped. Not happy with the OCC's program-am wondering if you have a program you might let us view?
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#2025618 - 07/07/15 04:13 PM
Re: Software and value/usefulness to Community banks
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Good comments, everyone. We are also struggling with the purpose section of the spreadsheets we prepare for the loans outside of those that fall in the small business definition but that are eligible for CRA. Have any of you found a way to automate that part of the report? We don't see a way around this, however, maybe for years we have been adding to the report info that isn't necessary for the report but that resides on support documentation.
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#2025750 - 07/07/15 08:16 PM
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"Community Development" as defined in CRA is complicated and convoluted. By its nature it would be very difficult to automate. In fact, I would be leery of any automated solution because you have to have a qualified activity that meets one of the 4 definitions and also fulfills the "primary purpose" which can be fulfilled in one of two ways. Furthermore, with respect to community services, there are different ways that can be measured. Finally, anything you can do that measures the "impact" on the community would be very helpful, but may be difficult to quantify.
About the best thing you can do is to educate personnel about "Community Development" and develop a form to capture relevant information for a potential community development activity. Always include which CD definition applies to the activity and an explanation of why it qualifies and then what documents you have to support the qualifications and the benefits.
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#2030787 - 07/30/15 04:11 PM
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I just signed on with a company called Kadince. Have not used it yet but the demo looks great. We find our CD services and donation often go to the same non-profits. With this I will be able to enter the org once (including backup docs to prove they are qualified) then track future donations and have staff input volunteer work in one place.
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#2068119 - 03/08/16 09:03 PM
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Just received an invitation for a demo from them. Anyone else using?
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#2068145 - 03/08/16 10:26 PM
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We use CenTrax and I have been very happy with the software. We do not use CDTrax but I have viewed demos and it looks worthwhile, just requires manual entry.
I saw a Kadince demo as well and it looked very helpful, but I don't recall the price point.
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#2068194 - 03/09/16 03:16 PM
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I like Kadince a lot! I've only been using it for about 2 months though. The owners/developers are very helpful.
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#2069417 - 03/15/16 09:26 PM
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Does anyone know the price point for AngelPoints system?
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#2069799 - 03/17/16 04:23 PM
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Nope, but we use it as well. The decision was made before I joined. We use Kadince for donations and AngelPoints for activities.
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#2070228 - 03/21/16 05:38 PM
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I have used Wiz the most out of anything. The learning curve is steep with but it have many great features and well worth it if you use it right. I've also used RATA which I like the most, it's got a microsoft office type feel to it, very easy to get used to. I liked this one the best but used it the lest. I currently use Centrax and it's clunky, I don't like it at all. I have to learn to love it for at least a couple more years! We got Angel Points only to discover our technology wasn't up to snuff so we weren't able to use it. I'm not sure it that has been resolved yet (it belongs in another department) so just a warning: even though it seems like it would be very simple, be sure to check out your system capabilities before purchasing it to make sure you can run it.
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#2070810 - 03/24/16 06:00 PM
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CenTrax has been a useful and reliable resource. The support team are always available and flexible. They have industry expertise that provide great feedback when necessary.
Kadince is another useful tool for CD activities. I'd highly recommend making the effort and scheduling a demo to see how effective the tool can be.
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