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#2038029 - 09/11/15 02:12 PM TIP calculation
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When completing the TIP calculation, we include odd day's interest, but would mortgage insurance be part of that calculation as well?

Thanks.

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#2038075 - 09/11/15 03:34 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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To manually find TIP, take the interest paid over the life of the loan + any prepaid interest shown in Section F and divide that total by the loan amount.

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#2038090 - 09/11/15 04:05 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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I know that, but I'm wondering if PMI by some weird chance, is considered in the TIP calculation as it is in the APR calculation. Thanks.
Last edited by biz; 09/11/15 04:06 PM.
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#2038093 - 09/11/15 04:06 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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I should also add, our processing software is including the PMI in the TIP calculation, but I can't find any support for including it.

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#2038105 - 09/11/15 05:06 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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PMI premiums are finance charges. Why do you think they should not be included in the TIP calcualtion?
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#2038132 - 09/11/15 06:56 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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Well because we have some legal advice stating no it should not be. And the direction in the regulation says "interest" it does not say finance charges. Would we include all finance charges then?

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#2038137 - 09/11/15 07:14 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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I don't see any support in the regulation for including anything other than interest.
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#2038140 - 09/11/15 07:22 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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By crackies it does say "Interest" instead of finance charge..... wink
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#2038143 - 09/11/15 07:26 PM Re: TIP calculation biz
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Dan-
I think we're all a little bit "cracked" at this point . . . do you think we do this stuff because we like it or because we don't know any better . . . IOW . . . a little "cracked." Thanks everyone.

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