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#2055503 - 12/23/15 03:16 PM Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance
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Customer applied as an individual for a FHLB loan on 10/21/15 for $142,000. 10/26/15 requested loan increase to $150,000 (new loan estimates sent). 12/3/15 Notice of Action taken/Counteroffer sent (FHLB would not accept the appraisal, comp issues). Customer Withdrew application on 12/4/15 and applied jointly with wife on 12/4/15. Lender did originate an in house loan on 12/16/15. Is the Original application a Denial or Withdrawal? What loan amount do we report?

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#2055508 - 12/23/15 03:32 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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They closed the counter offered loan. You have a loan and nothing more.
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#2055509 - 12/23/15 03:33 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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Sounds like you have two separate applications here. The first is the husband's application for the FHLB loan for $142,000. If the FHLB application was countered, but the borrower did not accept, you have a denial of the original application. (You did send a denial, right? wink ) You report this as a denial of $142,000 for him.

Then you have a second application from two people that was originated and should be reported as such at whatever amount you closed the loan at.

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#2055513 - 12/23/15 03:40 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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There was a new application for the originated loan because he added his wife to the application.

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#2055516 - 12/23/15 03:49 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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I agree with TR, except I believe that the amount to report on the first application is the requested increase of $150,000.00. The husband requested the change and the bank heard the request and updated and sent new LE's.

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#2055517 - 12/23/15 03:52 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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Then I stick by my answer that you have two separate application entries for HMDA.

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#2055520 - 12/23/15 03:54 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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OK
Or, as i think Randy was saying, you could treat this as a reinstated application and just report the originated loan. I believe it would be your choice whether to have 1 or 2 LAR entries in this scenario, and i'd always choose 1.
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#2055528 - 12/23/15 04:28 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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While I normally try to keep an application going, in this instance you have different product, different program, different borrowers = too many differences for me to be comfortable carrying this forward as a single application.

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#2055581 - 12/23/15 06:59 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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I would now probably lean more towards TR's opinion. In my first read I missed the fact that the wife was added.
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#2055592 - 12/23/15 07:12 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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Randy, always like getting your take on things: you believe the 'reinstated' application absolutely doesn't work? I guess i'm looking at the addition of the wife to the application much as i would any other borrower-requested change, but would like to hear your take.
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#2055593 - 12/23/15 07:14 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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To add....i'm looking at this strictly from a HMDA point of view (not a Reg. B one, for whatever that's worth).
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#2055597 - 12/23/15 07:21 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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IMHO - I think you could call it either way. This all happened simultaneously so it could all be one giant application with a counter-offer in the middle if you wanted it too. It would be no different than telling a person no, but we would do it with a co-borrower and you just revised the application because they come back in the same day with a co-borrower. The product switch isn't a big hang up for me.
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#2055598 - 12/23/15 07:22 PM Re: Withdrawn Application with Change of Circumstance Compliance Newbie
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Thanks....i agree re: the product switch.
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