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#215314 - 07/27/04 07:47 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Lets play nice.

"Hero" is best defined by each of us individually. Many soldiers, fireman and policeman are seen as heroes but say they are just doing their jobs. Perhaps they're both right. The same may be said about athletes. The beauty is in the eye of the beholder.




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#215315 - 07/27/04 07:50 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
Amen brother...
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#215316 - 07/27/04 09:15 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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As one with inside information on his non-public, personal life (no, I have not represented the Armstrongs), all I can say is it causes me to not label him a successful man or a hero. That aside, I applaud the accomplishments he has made for himself and the USA and hope that he was not doped.
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#215317 - 07/27/04 09:23 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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As one with inside information on his non-public, personal life (no, I have not represented the Armstrongs), all I can say is it causes me to not label him a successful man or a hero. That aside, I applaud the accomplishments he has made for himself and the USA and hope that he was not doped.




Come on Z...You can't give us a nibble and run away. Without breeching and confidentiality can you give us more info?
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#215318 - 07/27/04 09:50 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
If you dig deep enough, everyone has some skeleton in their closet that would keep someone from labeling them a hero. We are not questioning his personal, non-public life. The fact that you would make that statement would cause me to label you a non-hero...nothing but inuendo from your end. I knew him back when he was in high school (he was 2 years behind my sister) and I recall him as nothing but a class act from a single parent home who had a good head on his shoulders.

Of course, this is my opinion, and you have yours. And opinions are like....everyones elses stinks.
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#215319 - 07/28/04 03:26 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Hmmmm.....interesting, different perspectives on the same individual. Can anyone shed some more light on the true character of LA?
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#215320 - 07/28/04 05:43 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
I think his true character showed when, after setting a record in the L'Alp d'Huez time trial, and being spit on repeatedly by the French fans, was asked about the crowd and the behavior. His reply was "It was a very challenging ride. The fans being so close make it difficult to do well." Did he trash the French for spitting on him? No. Did he trash the nation of France for the action of its people? No. Did he trash the Tour de France, or anyone else? No. Never once did he mention being spit on. He answered the question with dignity and humility. I think that shows his true character right there.
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#215321 - 07/28/04 06:21 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Or that just means he has media savvy and good sense.

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#215322 - 07/28/04 07:25 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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no, because if he had media savvy he would have played this up big time to his advantage. He displayed humility by doing this. In fact, he has never bragged on himself in an interview, even when on the eve of winning his 6th title and they asked if he had the race in the bag, he said no, he did not and that until he was on the podium he would not rest easy. Name me another sport figure that would be that humble. Shaq, Kobe, Michael Jordan, Serena or Venus, Barry or Sammy, Bret Favre? They aren't out there.
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#215323 - 07/28/04 07:55 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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#215324 - 07/28/04 07:56 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Hey Cubby, I've made a vow to stay out of heated debates so how were you few days off last week? We missed you at Cleabatsu's.

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#215325 - 07/28/04 08:00 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Hey Pizza Girl - Definitely an opinionated thread, which is fine. Although I find it hard to disagree with someone with a Poster name of a great movie!

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#215326 - 07/28/04 08:03 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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I agree, sent HG a PM telling him/her I loved the screen name because the movie rocks!

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#215327 - 07/28/04 08:34 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
I was wondering what that flashing envelope was...duh.
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#215328 - 07/29/04 12:46 AM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Thanx to Andy Z for deleting a few posts. They must have been nasty! This HAS been a heated debate, but we must keep things civil. Thanx again, Andy, for being the voice of reason!
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#215329 - 07/29/04 12:52 AM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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I am going to print your post and show it to my wife and teenage son.

Thx.
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#215330 - 07/29/04 01:53 AM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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As a new poster I am truly amazed at the direction some threads take...it almost like they take on a life of their on. I think it good to have someone out there watching over it all.

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#215331 - 07/29/04 01:12 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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I was wondering what that flashing envelope was...duh.


LOL Happy! Does that mean you're all set with the private message function?

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#215332 - 07/29/04 01:16 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Pulling people out of the ditc...
good to go
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#215333 - 07/29/04 02:04 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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Lance is sure cashing in early. He already has deals worth $7 million.

I knew I never should have sold my Huffy.
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#215334 - 07/29/04 08:04 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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You've got to strike while the iron's hot! Oh, something like that....
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#215335 - 07/30/04 07:55 PM Re: Lance Armstrong-An American Hero
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As one with inside information on his non-public, personal life (no, I have not represented the Armstrongs), all I can say is it causes me to not label him a successful man or a hero. That aside, I applaud the accomplishments he has made for himself and the USA and hope that he was not doped.




Come on Z...You can't give us a nibble and run away. Without breeching and confidentiality can you give us more info?




Hmmm...no, but thanks for asking. If you want a real hero from Austin--in real life as well as athletically, check out my friend Josh Davis (my daughter can always say she had a multiple Olympic Gold Medal winner for a babysitter--he actually did babysit her about once or twice a couple of years ago). Josh Davis
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