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#216602 - 07/28/04 02:40 PM
Re: Can't we all just get along?
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and frankly I don't enjoy the forums as much as I used to.
Same here, just about every thread in the cooler ends up with some sort of attack, debate, argument, or someone taking offense to an obviously humurous and/or innocent post. What happened to the good ol' days, sniff sniff
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#216603 - 07/28/04 02:54 PM
Re: Can't we all just get along?
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I feel the same way. I still look at most posts on compliance related issues, but tend not to look at the posts in the Cooler any longer - with exception of the non-debate/policial ones (ex. Best/worst commercials). It's very sad that people choose to say disparaging remarks about others opinions. Everyone is entitled to their own and no one should try to change that.
Sorry - off my soapbox now.
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#216604 - 07/28/04 03:04 PM
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I agree however, I must say that most of the subject lines are pretty indicative of what lies ahead so I just don't go to those posts. But on the other hand, you can go to a post that is meant to be light-hearted and fun and then you have some getting off on a tangent that turns into some deep conversation about politics, theology, etc...
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#216608 - 07/28/04 03:34 PM
Re: Can't we all just get along?
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I normally use BOL for banking related issues. I haven't spent as much time on BOL these days because it's becoming a little discouraging ... and frankly I don't enjoy the forums as much as I used to.
Because of the varying levels of posters' banking positions (their actual jobs), it is conceivable to have an executive from a moneycenter bank conversing with a teller from a 3-branch $40 million bank. There is nothing wrong with this; it's just that the professional levels between posters, the maturity, the education, the experience and knowledge, as well as user expectations, are such that a very wide path is covered.
If you know anything about bank product positioning and branding, then you know the importance of consistency, quality, return on investment (including investment of one's time), and meeting or exceeding industry standards and user expectations.
There are very knowledgeable, mature and helpful posters in many of the subject threads (e.g., Gayla Sherry on HR issues, for example). However, there are also some contributors in some of the non-bank-subject threads that are very likely in jobs they don't like, and who have no passion for their industry. Regrettably, this results in poor contributions of little value to the greater audience, and a reduction in the overall quality eventually seeps through.
The general knowledge about professional chat-type/knowledge-exchange websites is that it is easiest for professional sites in specific industries -- such as AICPA.org for auditors, or ALLregs.com for lawyers -- because all of the posters pretty much have an equal passion for a particular subject area, and where their education, writing skills, maturity level and knowledge are fairly consistent.
There is also the issue that BOL is trying to offer a good product to as broad of a brush as possible, while also trying to maintain a common denominator of interests involving compliance, security, consumer issues and CRA, audit, risk management, etc.
What makes any site succesful over the long term is value, quality contributions and input, and professionalism.
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#216609 - 07/28/04 03:36 PM
Re: Can't we all just get along?
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I will not disagree with you folks. Suffice to say, one of the elements of the BOL Watercooler is a "place to blow off steam."
And the other element is to have fun so let's just keep the steam blowing separate from the fun. If a fun thread sparks a tangent then just start a new post with that as the subject. The truth is that once I start reading a fun thread and get bogged down in the first 2-3 threads of a tangent starting I just leave it and don't take the time to wade through it to see if we get back on track later. It's kind of a shame for the original poster too who loses out on some responses.
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#216614 - 07/28/04 03:58 PM
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#216616 - 07/28/04 04:04 PM
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I haven't posted as much lately, either. The primary reason is that I need less time in the Watercooler and more time putting my nose to the grindstone . I don't mind debating political and cultural issues, but they mostly end up going in circles at some point or they get personal. Now, debating NCAA football isn't a problem for me at all! In any case, have a good one folks. I am going to remove my nose from the grindstone now and take a couple of days off. (I hope someone here knows the expression "putting your nose to the grindstone", it was one my mother used to use, I don't know where she got it or why in the world anyone would want to put their nose to a grindstone).
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#216618 - 07/28/04 05:27 PM
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I hope someone here knows the expression "putting your nose to the grindstone", it was one my mother used to use, I don't know where she got it or why in the world anyone would want to put their nose to a grindstone
Here you go:
In the milling of flour in old mills, the fineness of the grind is determined by the separation between the two grinding stones. If the stones are too far apart, the flour is coarse. Too close, and heat builds up and can burn the flour. The most diligent millers, who produced the finest flour, learned to close the gap down until they could just smell the flour browning, then ease the stones apart enough to prevent burning. This required constant attention and much effort to keep the stones aligned at this optimum distance. Hence the origin of the expression, "Keep your nose to the grindstone," to mean for someone to pay close attention to what they are doing and to work hard.
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#216620 - 07/28/04 06:00 PM
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I still respect the banking opinions of a few posters but no longer respect them based on their treatment of other posters and that's pretty sad
My sentiments exactly and I agree, it's pretty sad.
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#216621 - 07/28/04 06:55 PM
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Have to admit, I've learned a few new words.
This is a good thing. You can learn, or you can spend all of your time paying insincere accolades to marginal posters who discuss frivolty. By learning and expanding your career substratum, you develop as a person, as a writer, as a leader...and as a banker.
One day I was shown some of our bank's board minutes, letters and memoranda from the 1930s and 1940s. Many of the bankers back then were only high school graduates, at best, but their writing style and grammar was flawless. Today, there are many college graduates in banking who are unequipped to write convincingly.
If you've learned a new word, then that's better than being absorbed in other silliness.
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#216623 - 07/28/04 09:36 PM
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I agree with you. I have not been involved in the BOL Threads very long, but even I have seen a distict difference since I became a BOLer. My mother always told me "Never discuss politics, religion or personal finance with family or friends, because you might not have either family or friends left after the discussion." For that very reason, I stay out of the those topics and the topics that turn into those types of discussions. I cannot for the life of me understand why posters feel the need to get ugly to other posters.
I believe BOL Threads are great for sharing information and getting help from other bankers. I hope all of you still feel like sharing with those who do not want to participate in the "ugliness". I don't mean just me--I think there are quite a few BOLers who feel the same way. I have noticed a distinct difference in who is posting and who has maintained a silence that used to be positively contributing to a discussion.
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#216624 - 07/28/04 09:59 PM
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As someone who is fairly new to this site, you will never see me attack. However, you will see me defend and/or repel attackers. I find it funny when people spout rhetoric they heard elsewhere and try and make it their own. It is too easy to point this out.
And having had my ass kicked by Bob Barker, you know why...
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