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#2157376 - 12/14/17 11:33 PM Rural Counties 2018
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I'm trying to find the CFPB list of Rural Counties for 2018. Is it not published yet?

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Interagency (Reg Z) and CFPB Reg B Appraisal Rules
#2157479 - 12/15/17 07:53 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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#2157502 - 12/15/17 10:48 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Thanks for confirming. Isn't it usually available by now?

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#2157503 - 12/15/17 10:52 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Yes usually November
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#2157551 - 12/18/17 03:55 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Let's hope this annual emanation from the Bureau isn't delayed by the 30-day suspension of rules and guidance that the new director imposed.
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#2158655 - 12/28/17 08:09 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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We are a Small Creditor and also Rural and Underserved. I'm finding that we are exempt from the "2nd " appraisal requirements under Reg Z Appraisal Rules for High Priced Mortgage loans over $25,500 (which is going up to $26,000 in January).

But I don't find that we are exempt from "Certified" Appraisals on HPML's over $25,500. In the past we just had an employee with appraisal experience do a one page Evaluation for our "portfolio loans"...that in some cases were HPML's.

If we are Small Creditor/Rural and Underserved aren't we exempt from the Reg Z appraisal rules for HPML's? I just can't find that in writing!

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#2158660 - 12/28/17 08:15 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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You can't find it because there isn't an exemption.
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#2158662 - 12/28/17 08:18 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Parluc, does your bank perhaps require all your portfolio loans to be QMs? If so, they would be exempt due to their QM status...just a thought.
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#2158664 - 12/28/17 08:28 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Raitchjay....thank you!!! I was in panic mode! Yes we only do QM's!! I guess I'll go thru the ATR/OM rules to try to find that in writing. I know we visited this a few years ago I am having trouble remembering where to find it.

Thanks for your help everybody!

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#2158671 - 12/28/17 08:37 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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It's in Sec. 35:

(2) Exemptions. The requirements in paragraphs (c)(3) through (6) of this section do not apply to the following types of transactions:

(i) A qualified mortgage as defined pursuant to 15 U.S.C. 1639c;
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#2158673 - 12/28/17 08:47 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Thank You!!

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#2166682 - 03/05/18 06:13 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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2018 Rural Counties list is posted!

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#2166684 - 03/05/18 06:16 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Can you share a link please?
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#2166704 - 03/05/18 07:20 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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#2166829 - 03/06/18 02:49 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Thanks Bville.
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#2166835 - 03/06/18 03:22 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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You're welcome. Take note that it goes alphabetically through the states and then starts over again with AK and goes through many of the states again. Seems as though someone didn't do a final sort.

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#2166837 - 03/06/18 03:28 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Remind me why we have a "rural underserved" and just a "rural" list?
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#2166841 - 03/06/18 03:35 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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We use the rural county list to get out of ordering a second appraisal on a HPML flip loan.

Rural and underserved gets you out of other things that I don't remember because my bank doesn't qualify.

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#2166843 - 03/06/18 03:37 PM Re: Rural Counties 2018 Bville
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Ah ok....thanks. The rural underserved has always been my primary concern.
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