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#2170593 - 03/28/18 03:27 PM Updated HUD Notice
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Lending to Servicemembers (SCRA, JWNDAA), War, Terrorism
#2170605 - 03/28/18 03:46 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Thanks.
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#2170701 - 03/28/18 07:26 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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#2170737 - 03/28/18 10:04 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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This is a great find, thank you! Currently, on the HUD Forms page it still shows "12/2014" next to the link to that form. crazy
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#2170773 - 03/29/18 12:09 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice GuitarDude
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Thanks for the update. I had been checking regularly to see if they updated the form, but kind of forgot about it lately.
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#2170818 - 03/29/18 02:07 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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I just noticed our current notice does not contain the expiration date, but does contain all other information verbatim. Is that a requirement?

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#2170820 - 03/29/18 02:12 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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OMB Approved documents cannot be altered unless there are specific provisions that allow it - i.e., highly unusual.
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#2170822 - 03/29/18 02:17 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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I'll check with our forms person, this was in place long before I started here. Thank you for the information.

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#2170843 - 03/29/18 03:01 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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There is a line on this form under "How does a Servicemember or Dependent Request..." that calls for the insertion of bank info.
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#2170844 - 03/29/18 03:04 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Yes, a Word version would be helpful.

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#2170866 - 03/29/18 04:04 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Actually it appears that the only change from the prior version are the dates in the header and footer of the disclosure, so a little editing of the current document should be all that's needed.

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#2170871 - 03/29/18 04:11 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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...and they changed the section number of the SCRA in the first paragraph.

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#2170878 - 03/29/18 04:26 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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I will be working on a Word version for the BOL tools hopefully this afternoon.
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#2171095 - 03/30/18 03:34 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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There were several changes to the form, noted on the Tools page. The Word version for easy updating is also now available:

https://www.bankersonline.com/tools/42580
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#2171292 - 04/02/18 02:54 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Thanks for the update and Word doc!!

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#2171304 - 04/02/18 04:02 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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I just noticed that the word doc and PDF on BOL has expiration of 03/31/2020 while the one from the HUD has 03/31/2021

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#2171314 - 04/02/18 04:32 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice ScoutLaRue
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I noticed the same thing... one says 2020 and the other 2021
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#2171315 - 04/02/18 04:32 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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#2171326 - 04/02/18 05:12 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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I have updated ours to the 2021 date. Why am I not surprised they changed it. HUD has been notorious in the past for revising this document several times until it finally gets it right. The first iteration of the form did state 2020.
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#2171452 - 04/03/18 12:56 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Thank you for providing the form in word version!
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#2171489 - 04/03/18 02:52 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Thank you Andy!

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#2171614 - 04/03/18 07:09 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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I thought effective date was December 31, 2019, the SCRA expanded foreclosure protections will sunset, and the protection period will revert to the period of active duty plus 90 days. With this new HUD SCRA notice, the sunset date will be 2021? Or am I mixing two different dates?
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#2171717 - 04/04/18 12:56 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice rlcarey
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Did anyone notice that the HUD Form has a typo in the very last paragraph? It reads: "(toll free from the Unites States)"
So do we correct this to read "United" States or, in light of Randy's valid point, leave it alone?

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#2171719 - 04/04/18 01:11 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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That typo isn't new and rather than appear unprofessional, it is corrected in the Word version. I cannot imagine being criticized for that correction of an obvious error.
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#2172118 - 04/05/18 05:37 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Banker 1025
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When I look at the notice on the HUD website, it looks like they corrected "Unites" -- but the BOL pdf version looks like it still has the typo?

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#2172139 - 04/05/18 07:02 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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I can only assume they were reading this thread and fixed it as the PDF form was downloaded based on the GAO newly released form.

The PDF can't really be used so I doubt I'll replace it. Since your bank info needs to be inserted the PDF is more so a go-by and we already give you a Word version.
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#2172157 - 04/05/18 08:03 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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We just need to figure out who is a member of the "Air Force Marine Corps" and we'll be good with the HUD version!
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#2172168 - 04/05/18 08:47 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Actually - you are required to send it to all home loan borrowers prior to them going 45 days past due - service member or not.
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#2174066 - 04/18/18 04:49 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Does anybody know why the model form on the HUD site shows an expiration date of 3.31.2021? I have not come across anything saying it was extended beyond 12/31/2019.

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#2174139 - 04/18/18 07:30 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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That date is the OMB expiration date. The OMB expiration date has nothing to do with the timing of the wording of the notice regarding the "one year" or "90 days" time frame.
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#2174141 - 04/18/18 07:46 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018 (H.R. 2810). Section 557 of the Act extends for two years, until December 31, 2019, the sunset on the temporary change of 90 days in § 303(b) and (c) of the SCRA (50 U.S.C. § 3953) back to one year.

In my mind that would be the expiration date as that foreclosure extension has been a key part of that form but the thought may be that it can be cancelled sooner. I've no idea where the new date came from. It could be moot as S2155 will make that 1-year a permanent change. The OneSource contract could also change or contact info. I assume that is a periodic contract for financial counseling that is occasionally put out for bid.
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#2174149 - 04/18/18 08:19 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Compliance NABW
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OMB expiration dates are usually for 3 years. It doesn't mean it will or won't be compliant for 3 years. It just means they need to get a new OMB approval in 3 years.

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#2225783 - 11/18/19 05:57 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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It has just been brought to our attention that the link (http://legalassistance.law.af.mil/content/locator.php) in the second to last paragraph does not work. Do you foresee any criticism for correcting this link (removing "/content/locator.php") when sending it out?

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#2225784 - 11/18/19 06:02 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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#2225786 - 11/18/19 06:05 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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Whoops, missed that one. Thanks!

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#2225787 - 11/18/19 06:15 PM Re: Updated HUD Notice Andy_Z
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https://legalassistance.law.af.mil/ does work and is the best alternative, even when I do get a "non-trusted site" message. The DMDC was that way before as the military appears to give site certificates little attention.

Since we know the given URL is bad, this is the same site. It's certainly a low-risk issue.
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