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#2176009 - 05/01/18 02:04 PM cash witdrawal or negot instrument cashed?
Burgess Offline
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CTR prep - would this be a cash withdrawal or a negotiable instrument cashed?
customer goes to the teller line and write a $15k on-us check payable to self and cashes it.
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#2176016 - 05/01/18 02:20 PM Re: cash witdrawal or negot instrument cashed? Burgess
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My instinct would be negotiable instrument cashed to account for the method of acquiring the funds, but it's also morning and I'm not even halfway through my first cup of coffee...
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#2176020 - 05/01/18 02:25 PM Re: cash witdrawal or negot instrument cashed? Burgess
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I think the consensus of prior threads has been that it doesn't really matter, but be consistent. We typically consider it a withdrawal if the person is a signer on the account. If it's a business account and payable to one of the signers, we'll find out if it was for business purposes. If it was, I'll consider it a withdrawal. If it's for personal use, I consider it to be a negotiable instrument.

Right or wrong, no one has ever questioned it other than to inquire how we do things.

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#2176055 - 05/01/18 03:39 PM Re: cash witdrawal or negot instrument cashed? Burgess
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Per slides used by a FinCEN speaker and the instructions for the last paper CTR, they want to know there is a piece of paper they can look at. Negotiable instrument cashed...
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#2176056 - 05/01/18 03:42 PM Re: cash witdrawal or negot instrument cashed? Burgess
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For almost as long as I can remember, if they signed a check (which is a negotiable instrument) you report it as a negotiable instrument cashed. If they signed a withdrawal slip, it's a withdrawal.
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