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#2188461 - 08/08/18 07:32 PM
Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
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We are a large bank and I thought a community development loan must not only satisfy one of the activities (affordable housing, services targeted to LMI, economic development, etc.), but must ALSO be $1 million or more. Is that correct? We have originated a $250,000 loan to Habitat for operating expenses and I'm hoping it will qualify.
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#2188476 - 08/08/18 09:23 PM
Re: Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
Mel in WA
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I have never heard that a CD loan must be a $1MM or more.
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#2188484 - 08/08/18 10:47 PM
Re: Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
Mel in WA
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My understanding of the rule is if a loan can be classified as a small business loan, it must be. That leaves those loans > $1MM and any loans not to businesses.
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#2188485 - 08/08/18 11:03 PM
Re: Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
Mel in WA
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Multifamily loans are also counted as CDLs, even though they would most likely be on your HMDA-LAR.
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#2188487 - 08/08/18 11:58 PM
Re: Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
Mel in WA
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Loans to nonprofits not secured by mining payments, or oil production do not have a dollar limit on them if they have a valid CD Purpose. If the loan is also not secured by mining payments, or oil production and does not have a valid CD purpose it would not be reported.
Loans to non profits secured by mining payments or oil production less than or equal to 1MM must be reported as small business loans, and as community development loans if greater than 1MM with a valid CD Purpose.
If it is secured by nonresidental nonfarm real estate it must be greater than 1MM if it is a permanent loan to a non profit entity with a valid CD purpose. If it is less than 1MM it would be reported as a small business loan even if it has a valid CD purpose. Alternatively, if it is a construction loan secured by nonresidential nonfarm real estate it would not have a dollar limit for CD if it has a valid CD purpose. Alternatively, if it is a construction loan without a valid CD purpose to a nonprofit it would not be reported at all.
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#2188575 - 08/09/18 06:05 PM
Re: Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
Mel in WA
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The whole rigmarole on Community Development lending started (IMO) when a short-cut was taken to provide a definition of "small business loan" and someone got the bright idea of piggy-backing on the Call Report definition of "Small Business loan". ("Oh hey, we can just use this handy-dandy definition right here!") and the powers that be didn't consider that Call Report definitions serve a different purpose than CRA. So you have to review the Call Report instructions, the short-hand of which is: - IF the loan is properly classified as either 01E (loan secured by non-farm, non-residential property) OR 04A (Commercial & Industrial loan) - AND the loan is $1Million or less, if you are a Large Bank then you must report that loan as Small Business and you cannot double count it as Community Development. Also- if you make Ag or farm loans, then any loan correctly reported as 01b or 03 and the amount is $500,000 or less, you must report as a small farm loan and cannot double count it as Community Development. ANY other non-consumer loan (except for 1-4 family RE reported on HMDA) is fair game to report as Community Development IF the loan meets the criteria for Community Development. In the instructions for Call Report Code 04A, there is a whole host of items that either must be included or excluded when it comes to nonprofit organizations, but the most common scenario, an unsecured loan to a non-profit, if that loan has a Community Development purpose then it can be reported as a Community Development loan regardless of the loan amount. CRA officers need to establish a good line of communication with the person/department responsible for assigning the Call Report codes on loans. It also helps to be familiar with the Call Report instructions: https://www.ffiec.gov/pdf/FFIEC_forms/FFIEC031_FFIEC041_201806_i.pdf
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#2188733 - 08/10/18 05:19 PM
Re: Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
Mel in WA
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This post has been so helpful. It's frustrating when loans that have a CD purpose are being originated, but since they are less than $1 million, they must be included in the data. We have a few others similar to the Habitat loan.
Thanks!!!
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#2188957 - 08/13/18 10:18 PM
Re: Large Bank CD Loans - Must be over $1 Million?
Princess Romeo
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I recently switched from an employer who is the largest CRA lender in the states, and was apart of their CRA Risk team, and there they report small business loans with a CD Purpose as CD loans. Then at my newest employer they only collect business with less than 1MM in rev/dollar amount as small business. As such, from what I have gathered, according to A Guide to CRA Data Collection and Reporting (pg 11, Link, FFIEC, 2016) on page 11 it states: Small Business Loans Secured by Nonfarm Residential Real Estate
Loans secured by nonfarm residential real estate used to finance small business must be reported as “loans secured by real estate†when the real estate collateral taken is greater than 50 percent of the principal amount of the loan at origination unless the security interest in the nonfarm residential real estate is taken as an abundance of caution and where the loan terms as a consequence have not been made more favorable than they would have been in the absence of the lien or liens. See instructions for Call Report Schedule RC-C in Appendix E. If the estimated value of the real estate collateral is 50% or less of the loan amount, the loan should be reported in another category based on the purpose of the loan (such as Commercial and Industrial). If the loans promote community development, they may be considered as community development loans. Otherwise, the institution may opt to collect and maintain data separately as “Other Secured Lines/Loans for Purposes of Small Business†for examiner evaluation. but interestingly in the Interagency Q&As on page 29 it states §ll.12(v) Small Business Loan §ll.12(v)—1: Are loans to nonprofit organizations considered small business loans or are they considered community development loans? A1. To be considered a small business loan, a loan must meet the definition of ‘‘loans to small businesses’’ in the instructions in the Call Report. In general, a loan to a nonprofit organization, for business or farm purposes, where the loan is secured by nonfarm nonresidential property and the original amount of the loan is $1 million or less, if a business loan, or $500,000 or less, if a farm loan, would be reported in the Call Report as a small business or small farm loan. If a loan to a nonprofit organization is reportable as a small business or small farm loan, it cannot also be considered as a community development loan, except by a wholesale or limited purpose institution. Loans to nonprofit organizations that are not small business or small farm loans for Call Report purposes may be considered as community development loans if they meet the regulatory definition of ‘‘community development.’’ But here is the death nail for us that are not small or intermediate institutions: §ll.42(b)(2)—2: If a loan meets the definition of a home mortgage, small business, or small farm loan AND qualifies as a community development loan, where should it be reported? Can Federal Housing Administration, Veterans Affairs, and Small Business Administration loans be reported as community development loans? A2. Except for multifamily affordable housing loans, which may be reported by retail institutions both under HMDA as home mortgage loans and as community development loans, in order to avoid double counting, retail institutions must report loans that meet the definition of ‘‘home mortgage loan,’’ ‘‘small business loan,’’ or ‘‘small farm loan’’ only in those respective categories even if they also meet the definition of ‘‘community development loan.’’ As a practical matter, this is not a disadvantage for institutions evaluated under the lending, investment, and service tests because any affordable housing mortgage, small business, small farm, or consumer loan that would otherwise meet the definition of ‘‘community development loan’’ will be considered elsewhere in the lending test. Any of these types of loans that occur outside the institution’s assessment area(s) can receive consideration under the borrower characteristic criteria of the lending test. See Q&A §ll.22(b)(2) & (3)–4. Limited purpose and wholesale institutions that meet the size threshold for reporting purposes also must report loans that meet the definitions of home mortgage, small business, or small farm loans in those respective categories. However, these institutions must also report any loans from those categories that meet the regulatory definition of ‘‘community development loan’’ as community development loans. There is no double counting because wholesale and limited purpose institutions are not subject to the lending test and, therefore, are not evaluated on their level and distribution of home mortgage, small business, small farm, and consumer loans. So, else where in the Q&As it states that if a small business loan does have a CD purpose it should be collected in the "Other Loan Data" field, or "Information on Small Business Loans, and Lines of Credit" that isn't reported, but held to provide to examiners during your actual CRA Exam. This information is considered Qualitative, and provides missing context to loans that otherwise should be demonstrated for having a response to community credit needs. Q&A §ll.12(v)–3.) Loans extended to small businesses with gross annual revenues of $1 million or less may, however, be secured by residential real estate. May an institution collect this information to supplement its small business lending data at the time of examination? A1. Yes. If these loans promote community development, as defined in the regulation, the institution should collect and report information about the loans as community development loans. Otherwise, at the institution’s option, it may collect and maintain data concerning loans, purchases, and lines of credit extended to small businesses and secured by nonfarm residential real estate for consideration in the CRA evaluation of its small business lending. An institution may collect this information as ‘‘Other Secured Lines/ Loans for Purposes of Small Business’’ in the individual loan data. This information should be maintained at the institution but should not be submitted for central reporting purposes. So essentially, if you want to get the full bang for your buck--you would still qualify Small Business Loans for CD, but keep that in a separate file to supplement your request letter when it comes evaluation time.
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