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#22045 - 06/26/02 10:01 PM CardCops
Andy_Z Offline
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This site, http://www.cardcops.com/ is getting great press as you can enter your credit card number (sans expiration date) into their secured site and see if yours is in a database of numbers that have been compromised.

The site is down now due to traffic resulting from the press. So long as the numbers entered are secured and not retained, this site has promise. It looks as though this anti-fraud group will also have some good links.

They already did some good alerting authorities to credit card theft.
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#22046 - 06/26/02 10:16 PM Re: CardCops
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WOW!!! What a great site to spoof! Imagine how many million card numbers you'd get before anyone realized you are a fraud. (I wonder if it's called identity 'theft' if you throw your card number at a scammer?)
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#22047 - 06/27/02 05:35 PM Re: CardCops
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Richard- That's exactly what I was thinking. In fact, Modern Humorist produced a mock spoof of this kind last year (no, it didn't actually work.)

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#22048 - 07/01/02 04:10 PM Re: CardCops
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If you were to give ONLY your credit card number and nothing else there isn't anything that can be done with it.

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#22049 - 07/01/02 04:26 PM Re: CardCops
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Dear Anonymous,

If you would provide me ONLY your credit card number and nothing else and if I was so inclined (but of course I take my role as a member society very seriously) you might be surprised on your next credit card statement.
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#22050 - 07/01/02 09:21 PM Re: CardCops
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The combinations of expiration dates over the next four years is a pretty small sample to play with. Only have to try 48 times to steal from me before you succeed, if you have my card number.
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#22051 - 07/02/02 12:52 AM Re: CardCops
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Knowing that card issuers often reissue cards a few months B4 the current expiration date further reduces the universe.
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#22052 - 07/18/02 01:39 PM Re: CardCops
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I heard about a case just yesterday where a customers card was hit for $7000 in one day w/o ever losing his card. Someone got ahold of his credit card # w/o the expiration date and made a duplicate card making up an expiration date. When the thief used the card it was denied when swiped but the clerk assumed the magnetic strip was damaged so called it in and got a verbal approval because there was plenty of available balance and the card was clean. The expiration date was never an issue. He did the same thing twice in one day for $3500 each. You don't need 48 tries, just a helpful clerk.

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#22053 - 07/19/02 01:35 AM Re: CardCops
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And do you think the issuing bank has learned anything form this? Some better ID there, asking the clerk for card information, may have helped them out.
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